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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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If the phone was locked, passcoded, remote erased and sim-locked how did they know her number? I’m not doubting the story I’m just curious how they figured that out.

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it was on the lock screen? Seems unlikely that they managed to remember its association with the phone throughout, though.

edit: we have the answer https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40579230

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>it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store lol no. That location is the Huaqiangbei electronics market - one of the largest electronics markets in the world w/ a thriving 2nd hand parts ecosystem.

It's roughly a subway stop east of it - the hotel I stay at when I visit is almost at the exact point on that map - but remember that Chinese maps and GPS do not line up (check that spot on google maps and then turn on the photo layer you'll see that the streets don't line up) - the actual spot looks like the mall even further east. Huaqiangbei is legit (and a wonder!) - the spot that would be a real smoking gun is t…

There is so much hands on knowledge that I wish was better documented. Louis Rossmann is great but there are a lot more non Apple devices out there that sometimes seem impossible to repair unless you really know things at a circuit level.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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The author claims in a comment that the scammer was able to contact her because Apple leaked her email address with the activation prompt. That's not likely, as that prompt **'s out most of the email address (you get the first letter of the part before the @). She most likely had a 'lost mode' message set for the device.

Agree - what the author claims doesn’t seem likely. I would be worried about my email address leaking. My email address has my full name. So they can easily find out where I live and work if they spend a bunch of time googling my name. Exposing my Phone number would almost be preferable over exposing my email address in this scenario.

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This is a fake story. > Veronica leads the digital news and audience team at WNYC and Gothamist, which includes breaking news, newsletters, and social, among other things. I expect such fake stories on the front page of reddit, not HN.

I don't know, millions of phones are stolen every year. Seems likely that some reporter's would be stolen once in a while. It's a little too mundane to be made up.

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post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a good reason why you might want to remove an iPhone marked as lost from your iCloud account? It seems like something that should just not be possible.

Maybe you don't want some random phone in China clogging up your map until you die? I could see wanting to get rid of it. Be nice if you could hide it or something. Maybe a button to brick it out of spite and be done with it forever.

We’re talking about possible improvements:

- hide the Lost device from the map after a month without unlocking it for them to sell.

- gather more information: is it lost? Stolen? What to do next.

- the device should be locked and blacklisted until you mark it as actually found.

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If the phone was locked, passcoded, remote erased and sim-locked how did they know her number? I’m not doubting the story I’m just curious how they figured that out.

> As you can see, most of the phones she tried didn’t have passcodes but were still linked to iCloud accounts

I guess she didn't have passcode on.

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While sort of funny, it is also crazy and disappointing the extent to which these scammers go. It’s not fun receiving death threats and having that stress over you. I wish we had more the law could do in bringing these criminals to justice.

For real, without a strong sense of resentment, you would probably give up just to stop the texts. It's not like you lose anything further (apart from increased chances of theft in the future for everyone I guess).

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long time ago i had my samsung galaxy stolen ive not reported as stolen because my carrier said i needed proof of the receipt (which i lost years ago) its such a crappy experience i dont wish it on anyone. Samsung has been next to useless in finding it. having said that this article makes me glad I bought an Apple just wish they'd kept the hardware touch button on the non-SE phones and back button. this is the first…

If I am understanding you correctly, you are having trouble with the "double tap" of the Touch ID models right? This operation was much easier on the smaller iphone SE. They probably designed it for that design(iphone 4-5S) due to its smaller size that allowed one handed operation and then carrying it over to the current SE design(iphone 6-11) is probably not ideal for that form factor(thinner and rounder).

I believe the FaceID models solve this by having you slide the app up slightly to then select between it and any other open apps or go back to the home screen. Maybe that would work better for you?

Also, this is just my opinion but like I mentioned, the iPhone SE Gen 2+ uses the last gen design language which started back in 2014(iphone 6) and has been gone from the main line for years now. It always felt super slippery and prone to dropping(too thin and those rounded edges are difficult to grip) which is why I held onto my iPhone SE Gen 1 until the new iPhone 12 came out.

This is just my opinion but maybe you should go to a store and check out their other models.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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This happened to my sister. She got her phone stolen at a bar in Austin. They’ve tried to phish her multiple times and now it’s gotten to intimidation texts where they are threatening physical and sexual violence to her unless she unlocks the phone. She put it in lost mode right away and due to my assurance she knows she is safe but honestly it does make you kind of just want to unlock and get the nightmare over with…

> She has tracked the iPhone via find my through a few us cities and finally it’s in China. I wonder… if people whose phones get stolen start tracking the locations they see it travel to using Find My, and a site were available to report these to, could enough evidence be collected to motivate a police/FBI visit to the location of fences in the US who are shipping these to China? (Could one prevent such a tool from b…

> I wonder… if people whose phones get stolen start tracking the locations they see it travel to using Find My, and a site were available to report these to, could enough evidence be collected to motivate a police/FBI visit to the location of fences in the US who are shipping these to China?

Probably not. Below their pay grade to stop petty crime. There's also the chain of custody on evidence that becomes questionable for the prosecution. They need to collect it using their own methods and reality is they have easier or larger crime to go after.

My observation on this is that it needs to be more of an 'institutional' level of crime to get them motivated if it doesn't happen in their own investigation. Ultimately this is 'helpful' crime for Apple's bottom line, unlike parts smuggled in to legitimately repair devices.

Other example of what I mean: I've witnessed a craigslist deal go south on a purchased motorcycle when the seller never titled it from previous owner. Cops were called, and told the two parties to stop arguing and file a claim in court else disorderly persons charges would be brought. (thankfully the seller was able to contact the former owner, and drive with the purchaser to have the title transferred properly) If however this was a situation like a bank calling about forged checks, the police would move to arrest and prosecute the forger immediately. There wouldn't be this onus on the bank's part to file a civil claim.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's roughly a subway stop east of it - the hotel I stay at when I visit is almost at the exact point on that map - but remember that Chinese maps and GPS do not line up (check that spot on google maps and then turn on the photo layer you'll see that the streets don't line up) - the actual spot looks like the mall even further east. Huaqiangbei is legit (and a wonder!) - the spot that would be a real smoking gun is t…

There is so much hands on knowledge that I wish was better documented. Louis Rossmann is great but there are a lot more non Apple devices out there that sometimes seem impossible to repair unless you really know things at a circuit level.

I've seen instruction pamphlets for these guys that measure the current draw as a particular iPhone model boots, from that they show places in the boot process where particular chips fail and how it changes

Remember they are removing chips from old boards, reballing them and soldering them onto new ones - they can pull a chip, fix a short and drop it back down pretty easily

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