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Re: Stop Using Discord

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If they're worse are they equivalent?

They are equivalent in terms of the features I listed - the core product. The big difference is in vibes. Slack is unashamedly corporate and would love to sell you premium SSO integration. They could cut out (or offend) the free community tier, no sweat. On the other hand Discord is more gaming aligned, and would love to sell you some premium custom emojis. Offending the free tier users or getting rid of the free tie…

Discord's core product is (or at least initially was) low-latency voice chat without needing to manage a server. Like Ventrillo or Mumble, but actually usable by most people. And there's text chat too, that actually works.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…

I tried discord only once, but to me it was a disorganized chaotic experience. People seem to really think that well organized faq sections on traditional websites and properly searchable and indexable forum threads should be replaced by "just search through two years of chat backlog on discord". Or something like that.

Discord is meant for gamers playing games. Who tf cares what happened 2 years ago in that context.

Here's the key: if I use something for free, I don't expect anything from it.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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post #157
post #147

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Discourse works without javascript. AFAIK it even has email support as well (I don't know how that works).

It barely works without JS. Essentially everything other than basic text display is broken, including search, pagination, sorting, etc. that said, I am surprised it works at all given the aforementioned loading throbber before you can see a page.

I stand corrected, their demo page is broken without javascript, for example you can't login and post.

Pagination works fine tho, for their demo page at least. An example long thread, [1] has a clickable link to [1]?page=2 at the bottom of the page.

But you can't post. If you log in (using javascript) it refuses to show you anything without javascript later, and you can't post a new message.

It's clearly not their priority, and I am not sure why.

[1] https://try.discourse.org/t/is-the-second-amendment-still-re...

Re: Stop Using Discord

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post #59

I feel like we have this discussion every month, one way or another. People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Discourse is nice for purely written communication but if you want to setup a call, direct message and, more importantly, write bots (presentation, topic organization, news, modding, now even AI Q&A); people will fall back to Discord. Pointing at Discourse when it doesn't have the…

I have been using computers for 40 years and I cannot see a single feature of discord that I cannot have on a forum or even reddit. In fact, the UX of Discord is abismal.

Voicechat, Videochat and Screensharing?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#236
This 78 word Mastadon post is more an Ask HN—discuss.

Sure. Using Discord as a help community for technical issues seems like a bad idea on the surface.

But that’s not why I use Discord for technical issues.

I’m prolly a year and a half behind on what’s what (my last big project ). For me StackExchange was the place to find answers to specific questions.

Discord (and Reddit because discussion is permitted) was the place to go to find guidance when you don’t know where to start.

Sooo, Id rather say use Discord, use what works—but write and share back your knowledge to the searchable communities mentioned by the author.

The easy way to do that is write the question that you should have asked to those technical communities and answer your own question.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#237
I run a forum (for many, many years) and a Discord (for a few years).

The Discord works perfectly and always has. It's completely free and easy to use.

The forum is expensive, complicated, and usually broken. or hacked. or full of spam. It's going to cost even more money to fix. Nobody wants to work on forums, much less me.

Good riddance.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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post #227

The D language forums[1] are a good example of an alternative approach. I don't know what their server/storage costs are, but all that information from the last couple decades is easy to find with a search. The forum is fast, it doesn't require registration, and it's open source.[2] [1] https://forum.dlang.org/ [2] https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed

Snappy and simple! I like it. I wonder how they deal with spam if anyone can post without being logged in.

A few pieces get through the filter, but they zap it as needed.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snappy and simple! I like it. I wonder how they deal with spam if anyone can post without being logged in.

A few pieces get through the filter, but they zap it as needed.

Thank you! It's good to know.

Specially since I plan to create a forum for a small web framework I might share in the future.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…

My sad realization is that in today’s nerd world, there just aren’t that many teenage webmasters. Unix and DNS and Apache just aren’t very sexy or fun to learn when the other cool kids are playing with LLMs and Flutter and WebGL. Obviously _we’d_ prefer if they learned to setup vBulletin and do it our way, but when Discord is free and all their friends are on it, it’s a tough sell to the other nerds. It’s not a “kids…

Those kids are building Discord bots now.
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