I am a paid customer, yet I don't see anything new. I'm tired of these fake announcements of "released" features.
GPT-4o
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Re: GPT-4o
#232The usual critics will quickly point out that LLMs like GPT-4o still have a lot of failure modes and suffer from issues that remain unresolved. They will point out that we're reaping diminishing returns from Transformers. They will question the absence of a "GPT-5" model. And so on -- blah, blah, blah, stochastic parrots, blah, blah, blah. Ignore the critics. Watch the demos. Play with it. This stuff feels magical .…
> This stuff feels magical. Magical.
Because its capacities are focused on exactly the right place to feel magical. Which isn’t to say that there isn’t real utility, but language (written, and even moreso spoken) has an enormous emotional resonance for humans, so this is laser-targeted in an area where every advance is going to “feel magical” whether or not it moves the needle much on practical utility; it’s not unlike the effect of TV news making you feel informed, even though time spent watching it negatively correlates with understanding of current events.
Re: GPT-4o
#233I would still prefer the features in text form, in the chat GUI. Right now chatGPT doesnt seem to have options to lengthen parts of the text response, to change it etc. Perplexity and gemini do seem to get the gui right. Voice chat is fun for demos but won't catch much, just like all the predecessors. Perhaps an advanced version of this could be used as a student tutor however
Re: GPT-4o
#234So far OpenAI's template is: amazing demos create hype -> reality turns out to be underwhelming.
Sora is not yet released and not clear when it will be. Dall-e is worse than mid-journey in most cases. GPT-4 has either gotten worse or stayed the same. Vision is not really usable for anything practical. Voice is cool but not that useful, especially with lack of strong reasoning from the base model.
Is this sandbagging or is the progress slower than what they're broadcasting?
Re: GPT-4o
#235This thing continues to stress my skepticism for AI scaling laws and the broad AI semiconductor capex spending. 1- OpenAI is still working in GPT-4-level models. More than 14 months after the launch of GPT-4 and after more than $10B in capital raised. 2- The rhythm that token prices are collapsing is bizarre. Now a (bit) better model for 50% of the price. How people seriously expect these foundational model companies…
> Token volume needs to double just for revenue to stand still
I'm pretty skeptical about all the whole LLM/AI hype, but I also believe that the market is still relatively untapped. I'm sure Apple switching Siri to an LLM would ~double token usage.
A few products rushed out thin wrappers ontop of chatgpt ai, developing pretty uninspiring chat bots of limited use. I think there's still huge potential for this LLM technology to be 'just' an implementation detail of other features, just running in the background doing its thing.
That said, I don't think OpenAI has much of a moat here. They were first, but there's plenty of others with closed or open models.
Re: GPT-4o
#236The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.
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Re: GPT-4o
#237It doesn't improve on NYT Connections leaderboard:
GPT-4 turbo (gpt-4-0125-preview) 31.0
GPT-4o 30.7
GPT-4 turbo (gpt-4-turbo-2024-04-09) 29.7
GPT-4 turbo (gpt-4-1106-preview) 28.8
Claude 3 Opus 27.3
GPT-4 (0613) 26.1
Llama 3 Instruct 70B 24.0
Gemini Pro 1.5 19.9
Mistral Large 17.7
Re: GPT-4o
#238The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.
I was in the audience at the event. The only parts where it seemed to get snagged was hearing the audience reaction as an interruption. Which honestly makes the demo even better. It showed that hey, this is live.
Magic.
Re: GPT-4o
#239There is a spelling mistake in the japanese translation under language tokenization. In こんにちわ, わ should be は.
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#240I love that there is a real competition happening. We're going to see some insane innovations.