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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I think at the very least it's a kind of trend-chasing. If the AI hype dies down a bit will Rabbit AI continue supporting their product and customers or are they going to wipe their online presence and move on to the next trend like with the NFT thing?

I don't even think in this case it's a matter of the AI hype dying down (though it is, and will continue to do so as products like these fail to get actually useful) I think this is just a complete nonstarter. Like, there's just nothing here that isn't better executed with existing tech. If I want to ask my phone to order a pizza, I can set that up in a lot of apps with Siri shortcuts, or, and far more likely, just o…

> Rabbit is a regression to ordering things with a phone, except instead of talking to a person, you're talking to a robot.

> I just, I cannot fathom who wants this.

If that doesn't make a difference to you, you're not the target market. It truely doesn't for some, but for others, it does!

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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building a hardware company and shipping thousands of devices doesn't seem like a get-rich-quick grift to me. There are a lot of things rabbit can do that you couldn't do on an app since they own the hardware. Just shipped it too soon. The product is definitely not super appealing to me yet in the current state.

name one thing the rabbit can do that a smartphone can't.

not have a screen.

Sometimes the thing that defines something is not what it has, but what it lacks.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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imo that laser display is awesome and I want one, but it's hobbled by the software. I'd gladly pay $700 if it was open and wasn't locked to their ecosystem.

Even considering it does not appear to work well in bright settings, and can't map the laser beam to uneven surfaces? Conceptually, the idea could be interesting, but the implementation shown appears that it would not work well in most real life settings.

Like the first gen Apple watch, or a convertible car. it doesn't work in a lot of scenarios, but for the ones where it does, it absolutely shines. A generation or three later, it'd be better, for sure, but early adopters have to give up some things to be that early. I just don't know why they had to force it to be independent of your smartphone this early in its lifecycle. It's an accessory, like a smartwatch, and sure, a later generation could operate independently, just like there's an LTE Apple watch, but that's not where they are yet.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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imo that laser display is awesome and I want one, but it's hobbled by the software. I'd gladly pay $700 if it was open and wasn't locked to their ecosystem.

As I've seen it demoed I'd get one as like a raspberry pi or microcontroller peripheral. But $700?

For hardware that doesn't require me to break out my TS80P soldering iron and no breadboarding (that is half the fun though, although it becomes a different kind of project)? I mean I could, but then I've got to make a whole harness for the thing and and and. It's worth it to me to not have to do all that. But you're right, $700 is a lot.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Are you referring to this? https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt-plugins Rabbit's approach is one-sided (train their model to generate needed API calls, and maybe also perform Selenium-style simulated actions?) which should make it more flexible if inherently less reliable than dedicated plugins written by developers from the apps looking to be called via AI

Having to rely on one company to train their API calls makes it less flexible and less reliable except maybe for the largest apps. Even if they did it better than chatGPT (and I don’t think they can), that would be the thinnest of moats.

Agreed it is basically scraping which is flaky as hell

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #216

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Even considering it does not appear to work well in bright settings, and can't map the laser beam to uneven surfaces? Conceptually, the idea could be interesting, but the implementation shown appears that it would not work well in most real life settings.

Like the first gen Apple watch, or a convertible car. it doesn't work in a lot of scenarios, but for the ones where it does, it absolutely shines. A generation or three later, it'd be better, for sure, but early adopters have to give up some things to be that early. I just don't know why they had to force it to be independent of your smartphone this early in its lifecycle. It's an accessory, like a smartwatch, and su…

I’m not sure it’s even at that stage yet. It’s more like very early proof of concept than limited demand consumer ready product.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#237

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I don't even think in this case it's a matter of the AI hype dying down (though it is, and will continue to do so as products like these fail to get actually useful) I think this is just a complete nonstarter. Like, there's just nothing here that isn't better executed with existing tech. If I want to ask my phone to order a pizza, I can set that up in a lot of apps with Siri shortcuts, or, and far more likely, just o…

> Rabbit is a regression to ordering things with a phone, except instead of talking to a person, you're talking to a robot. > I just, I cannot fathom who wants this. If that doesn't make a difference to you, you're not the target market. It truely doesn't for some, but for others, it does!

Show me someone.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

#238

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> Rabbit is a regression to ordering things with a phone, except instead of talking to a person, you're talking to a robot. > I just, I cannot fathom who wants this. If that doesn't make a difference to you, you're not the target market. It truely doesn't for some, but for others, it does!

Show me someone.

https://fashionjournal.com.au/life/millennials-gen-z-phone-c...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/briannawiest/2019/11/04/millenn...

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-millennials-like-speaking-on-...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/26/whatsa...

https://www.euruni.edu/blog/the-mute-generation-why-millenni...

https://jeffjbutler.com/2019/04/02/why-millennials-dont-like...

https://www.inc.com/john-brandon/why-millennials-dont-like-t...

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #194

I saw this news and my reaction was, "Of course it is, doing anything else would be stupid." But that on its own doesn't mean it could just be a phone app if the hardware adds something useful to the way the user interacts with it. For example, old Sony mirrorless cameras just ran Android under the hood but the specific hardware is what made those products, not the OS. As a hardware person, both the Rabbit R1 and the…

There was an attempt with folding phones. Is that taking off beyond the "I have too much money" crowd?

what are you implying here? that folding phones are simply a money thing, and have no actual value?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #236

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Like the first gen Apple watch, or a convertible car. it doesn't work in a lot of scenarios, but for the ones where it does, it absolutely shines. A generation or three later, it'd be better, for sure, but early adopters have to give up some things to be that early. I just don't know why they had to force it to be independent of your smartphone this early in its lifecycle. It's an accessory, like a smartwatch, and su…

I’m not sure it’s even at that stage yet. It’s more like very early proof of concept than limited demand consumer ready product.

Fair. I don't have one so I'm basing my opinion off of youtube videos and not actual experience with one.
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