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NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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Yep, 45 years old hardware, still getting software updates. Hey Apple, JPL is close to you, can you get someone to bike over and see how they do it? Thanks!

Planned obsolescence [1] in the problem. Apple could certainly create modular devices designed to be used and piecemeal modified/updated indefinitely. But it's way more profitable to sell you a brand new phone every couple of years than it is to sell you a modular device that you could update as desired, especially if the parts/connections are standardized meaning you could foster a [normalized] third party market for batteries, screens, etc.

Devices would last way longer, prices would be much lower, and it'd be unimaginably better for the environment. But Apple wouldn't make as much money, and the government's GDP growth figures wouldn't be as high. So clearly it's a terrible idea.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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There's something very beautiful about Voyager's journey so far. I hope one day when we're a true interstellar species we'll still keep tabs on it. The data may not be useful anymore, but it would be cool to imagine a year 3000 society with a little "Look at where Voyager is now :)" tool that you can see its path and where humans have colonized by comparison.

I’ve imagined a scene playing out, in sci-fi or for real in the distant future, where astronauts test out a new propulsion system by flying out towards Voyager 1 and catch up to it with ease. As they approach, they see the ancient probe grow larger and larger in their window until…

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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> [1] https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/frequently-asked-questions/ Also: Even if science data won't likely be collected after 2025, engineering data could continue to be returned for several more years. The two Voyager spacecraft could remain in the range of the Deep Space Network through about 2036, depending on how much power the spacecraft still have to transmit a signal back to Earth. That FAQ covers a lot of interes…

> the cameras were turned off to save power and memory Since it’s powered by an RTG, how does the power get “used up”? I assume that this refers to the available power budget at a given moment versus some sort of expendable power reserve.

Yes the power budget is decreasing as the generator output decreases over time.

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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Oh, you sweet summer child...

This patronizing phrase should really be scrubbed from the modern lexicon.

It is the modern lexicon, it's from the game of thrones.

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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"The team discovered that a single chip responsible for storing a portion of the FDS memory — including some of the FDS computer’s software code — isn’t working. The loss of that code rendered the science and engineering data unusable. Unable to repair the chip, the team decided to place the affected code elsewhere in the FDS memory." Just another proof that we may have gained a lot, but also lost something in our pu…

The modern equivalent to this would be an embedded system with an RTOS, where you do get full control of memory, because you are the OS. We just have nice abstractions on top of that for the most common use cases, since you very rarely need that precise of control over system timings or memory allocation.

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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> A radio signal takes about 22 ½ hours to reach Voyager 1, which is over 15 billion miles (24 billion kilometers) from Earth, and another 22 ½ hours for a signal to come back to Earth. It has taken 46 years to get 22.5 light hours away from Earth!

Yes, this is why I always liked 'planet walks' like this [1] If you see Images the planets in the solar system, the solar system itself etc. are mostly not to scale. If you walk such path one get a bit of a feel how large everything is, I think especially if the plantes on the walk are to scale too. Even our solar system is mostly empty. And the distances to moon a microscopic.

Walking such a path is is not the same, but a bit like [3] if one is patient (which is difficult on the internet) and doesn't scroll manually but only via the little "c" in the lower right corner, wich scrolls with light speed.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_Planet_Walk (there are several other listed at the bottom of the page)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model

[3] https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem....

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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If anyone is curious about the computers they use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_program#Computers_and_... 16/18-bit custom architecture, 4k/8k words (around 9/18KB total). Other sources I could find indicate a 250kHz clock frequency and around 8KIPS.

Could get doom running on that, no problem.

Re: NASA's Voyager 1 Resumes Sending Engineering Updates to Earth

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[SPOILER ALERT] It was the surprise ending for the first Star Trek film... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Pictur...

That was Voyager 6, a fictional probe based on the real life probes of the same name. Earth probe gone bad is a common trope in Sci-Fi. Star Trek alone has a few episodes: - https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Nomad - https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Friendship_1 Also the Doomsday machine was a very different type of probe to V’ger https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Doomsday_Machine_(e...

Also a Futurama episode where a probe merged with God.
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