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Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

rightbyte wrote: post #92
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In italy we had 3000.it https://web.archive.org/web/20010331143129/http://www.kliman... SPOILER: I didn’t become a webdesigner

"Copyright © by klimato ® All Right Reserved" Heh. I remember thinking '©' and '®' being cool letters. I put it on every page since it looked pro. I guess you didn't actually register the "brand"?

I believe you don't have to do anything to claim copyright, other than make it yourself. One vague legal source I just read says that adding the copyright symbol and notice means you may be entitled to more damages if someone infringes on your copyright though.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

nine_k wrote: post #226
philsnow wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a similar problem I encounter from time to time: when I self-identify as “conservative” and express opinion C, many people assume I also hold opinions D, E, and F, because “that’s how all conservatives are”. There are multitudes in every group.

There's one great piece of advice: "Keep your identity small" [1]. (If people ask me about my political affiliations, I usually answer something like "Hamilton for president! Of maybe Jefferson."; this kind of statesmanship is hard to find now though.) [1]: https://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html (It's short, read it now.)

Does that mean, instead of saying "I am conservative", you instead only answer about specific policies (e.g. whether you use vim or emacs)?

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by dspillett »

eszed wrote: post #7
chomp wrote: post #4

Thank god, .tk caused so many headaches for us, truly a cesspit of a tld. The rate of fraud and abuse on our platform was staggeringly high from it, it was close 99%.

It would follow that Cloudflare is tacitly admitting they have been / are hosting a large number of domains used for fraud and abuse. That surprises me, given the time and effort they spend mitigating fraud and abuse. Anyone care to explain what I'm missing?

> admitting they have been / are hosting a large number of domains used for fraud and abuse

Only if the abuse happened through them. Perhaps they were just hosting holding pages, and the traffic was pushed elsewhere when active scams were running?

> surprises me, given the time and effort they spend mitigating fraud and abuse

They mitigate it incoming as one of their features for their customers. That doesn't mean they are going to mitigate it outgoing quite as fiercely. Though I'd assume they'd made some effort at least to maintain a reasonable reputation for their IP ranges.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by CydeWeys »

genewitch wrote: post #177
CydeWeys wrote: post #112

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It's not true of gTLDs though. You actually own those domains, and they can't be taken away from you (barring extreme circumstances) so long as you pay the registration fees every year. But domains on ccTLDs can be taken away from you by the government at any time for any reason.

I gotta say i find it extremely hard to believe that one can "own" a domain. This sounds like hand-waving. We don't own software, we barely own computers (to do with what we want), we don't own media. Is this like "one can own land" but really that's asterisked with Eminent Domain (no pun intended)?

Real estate is a pretty good analogy for this, actually. You own domains on gTLDs in the same way that you can own property, but you have to pay your annual property taxes (domain registration fees) else you can lose it. But owning a domain on a ccTLD is more like renting property in a jurisdiction that doesn't have rent control; at any point the actual owner can simply say you're not allowed to use it anymore, and tough luck. Look at what happened to British .eu registrants, for example.

Also you can own all sorts of intangible things, so it's really not that foreign of a concept. You can own parts of the RF spectrum in your country, or mineral rights to a specific piece of land, or you can own a piece of intellectual property or a patent. Domain names are just another flavor of intangible property ownership.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by qingcharles »

znpy wrote: post #229
qingcharles wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought mine through infomaniak.com.

I'm trying to move a legitimate domain to them but I'm getting this error: Entity reference not found [Object does not exist] Has something similar happened to you ?

Are you trying to move a .tk? I don't know if anyone can accept a .tk now -- the whole situation with that TLD is a clusterfuck now :( I can't renew the one I had.
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