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Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by ta1243 »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #223
ta1243 wrote: post #139

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Yes, europlug works everywhere in mainland EU (Not in Ireland and Cyprus) and indeed in most of the world, which is fine for class 2 devices that the majority of kit you typically move around is.

Malta uses type G plugs also. If you're reasonably familiar with electricity, you can use a europlug with a type G socket even without an adapter. (unless you count a pin/screwdriver to bypass the child gates) In fact, I have both an adapted schuko plug and an unadapted europlug wall wart under my desk right now. I should really get an adapter for the latter one though, so it can be individually fused and make better…

Personally I wouldn't be happy with a high current europlug in a type-g socket, and given that type-g electrical installations assume a fused plug it's probably not a great idea. If you had a fault you could be drawing 25A up a 3A cable without tripping a breaker.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by kerkeslager »

bengale wrote: post #83
troupo wrote: post #61

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Nothing in the law requires those cookie banners. If you don't agree, you can quote to me the exact passage in the GDPR where it talks about cookies, banners, or browsers. Or you can read what Github has to say about this: https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/

This is the exact problem though, noone really cares what the law says, they care that now they have annoying cookie banners. They don't blame the businesses for this; they blame the EU. The more of this they layer on the more ordinary people get irritated by the EU. This is how Brexit happened, remain tried to explain this stuff over and over again and no one wants to hear it. They want the cookie banners gone, or t…

> This is the exact problem though, noone really cares what the law says, they care that now they have annoying cookie banners. They don't blame the businesses for this; they blame the EU. The more of this they layer on the more ordinary people get irritated by the EU.

You're very much speaking from inside a bubble here. The only people I ever hear blame the EU for this, are on HN.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by brummm »

drooopy wrote: post #26
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

Despite the rise of far right populist parties, Europe tends to lean more on the left side of the political spectrum compared to America, and corporate worship is a relatively new thing over here. People tend to have more faith in governments and treat companies with more distrust, compared to the US which seems to be the other way around.

While you are right, I think the better formulation is that the US is just super to the right of the normal political spectrum. In Europe you have a pretty good spread across the whole spectrum across the many countries, but in the US the left really doesn't exist as a party. Even the Democrats would be a conservative party in most other countries.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

paulsutter wrote: post #48
mjburgess wrote: post #24

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It does seem they've mistaken the general sentiment towards government regulation in europe, which is typically, "more, better". Since we have so many consumer protections, much of how we end up engaging with the law around business practices is to our benefit . We're always aware we can raise bad business practices with an ombudsman (etc.). So our lived experience of government regulation is, in large part, positive…

Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

If we're talking about _systems_ then there's a lot more to GDPR than this tired, facile soundbite about "cookie banners".

Yes, GDPR is absolutely beneficial to citizens. And quite often in invisible ways, since e.g. we never hear about the breach of customer data that didn't happen.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by overstay8930 »

_visgean wrote: post #206
overstay8930 wrote: post #137

You can say the EU is doing good or bad, but what is reality is that this blog post is ignoring is that the European economy is kind of just falling apart right now directly because of these types of regulations and reforms. German labor unions are the weakest they’ve been in decades, Europe as a whole is an incredibly undesirable place to run a business in 2024, and EU companies have rested on their laurels so long…

>that the European economy is kind of just falling apart right now directly because of these types of regulations and reforms Is it though? GDP seems to be growing similarly to US, not as good but definetely not falling apart. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?locat...

If you only look at GDP everything is fine, I’m talking about the whole picture. Germany is only expected to decline in the next few years due to poor governance and it’s bringing the rest of Europe down with it, France can only do so much when the EU is so economically linked.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by sealeck »

There's also another option where Apple is just going to wait/lobby the US government to apply pressure on the EU in the hope that this is effective (as it has been historically). In in the event of another Trump presidency (let us hope this doesn't happen) this is very likely to happen and Biden has made some moves in this direction. The fact that Europe is 100% reliant on the US to stop the Russians conquering Ukraine at the moment doesn't really help.

See for example this letter https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-lawmakers-urge-biden-p... or https://www.politico.eu/article/senator-ted-cruz-slams-us-ag...

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by fsflover »

carlosjobim wrote: post #216
kerkeslager wrote: post #159

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There are two systems at play when you see a cookie warning: 1. Businesses trying to violate your privacy. 2. A government trying to protect you from said businesses. Either of these entities could avoid the cookie warning, but there are very different reasons why they do not.

If you use government websites within EU countries, most of them have cookie warnings. And a large part of them also use dark patterns to "forget" that you selected "only necessary" cookies each time you visit.

So what is your conclusion? "It's a bad law"? Government websites breaking GDPR is an important thing to know, in order to fight against it.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by _visgean »

gizmo wrote: post #114
kitsune_ wrote: post #69

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Insane is a bit of a strong word, no? If Musk was a visionary he would have built trains, not cars.

Maybe, but imagine how large a rocket SpaceX would have to build to launch a train into orbit.

Maybe thats the true motivation for the starship?

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Post by fmajid »

FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #125
paulsutter wrote: post #48

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Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

Just install some browser extension that automatically refuses them.

The next step for the EU is Global Privacy Control, which is basically the old Do-Not_track header, but legally enforceable this time (the EU is not alone in this, it's already the law in California). If your browser sends that header, the website will have to not show you a cookie popup and treat it as a "Reject All" instead.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by hef19898 »

indymike wrote: post #230
hef19898 wrote: post #103

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You know what disproves this, again right wing US BS to oppose universal healthcare? The financial filings of each and every international pharma company. Regarding defence spending, it is good this point comes up. It replaced masks during Covid as a clear indicator of where a person gets its information from, or how good they are at critical thinking.

> You know what disproves this, again right wing US BS to oppose universal healthcare? Originally, universal health care was proposed by the Nixon administration, and was a right wing issue. The issue was viewed as an industrial competitiveness issue, and the solution advocated was a single payer system that would move the cost of health off of the balance sheet. I sometimes wonder what would have happened had this i…

It is quite telling that we reached a point where look back and unironically say: that Nixon policy wasn't bad.
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