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Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by turtles3 »

ConorSheehan1 wrote: post #149

Does this issue only occur if you have billing info on file? I'm using the free tier and have no billing info set. According to this https://github.com/netlify/ask-netlify/issues/6#issuecomment... > if you have an event that puts you over the free-tier limits, Netlify will ask you to update your billing information and add a CC Although worryingly > We just had this happen and our site didn't stop working. Is there a…

I'm also interested to know this. I have a couple of static sites running on the free tier for friends/family and now I'm planning on moving them all to a VPS as soon as I can.

It is beyond ridiculous that serverless providers don't offer a way to cap spending. The idea that it might cause your site to go offline is a complete non-argument. That what I _want_ to happen. I want to be able to say sure, I'm happy to sustain 10x traffic for a few hours, and maybe 3x sustained over days, but after that take it offline. I don't want infinitely scaling infra precisely because of the infinitely scaling costs.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by Ringz »

boredtofears wrote: post #126
apsurd wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://render.com/ is free for static sites with custom domain support and SSL included. been happy so far! used to use s3 for the longest time, but aside from costing a nominal fee, it's so unnecessarily complicated in this day and age.

> used to use s3 for the longest time, but aside from costing a nominal fee, it's so unnecessarily complicated in this day and age its like 10 minutes of setup tops to host on s3

That depends on what level of knowledge you are based on. The UX of AWS offers even leading experienced admins and developers some surprising stumbling blocks.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by DontBreakAlex »

pacifika wrote: post #213
ignoramous wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Cloudflare's ddos protection Yeah, we got hammered once with over 10TB/mo and noped out of Netlify as fast as we could: https://twitter.com/rethinkdns/status/1370342245841342466 Had to pay the bill in full. Cloudflare's free tier is ridiculous: We do over 30TB+ of genuine traffic for $0. Makes it hard to move to any other platform. As a small tech shop, this is my Hotel California I'm happy to never leave.

That’s a free tier that doesn’t sound sustainable then, so that raises alarm bells to me.

That's because amazon and big telecom convinced you that bandwidth is expensive. It isn't. Once the equipment is there, you might as well use it.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by underdeserver »

WyvernDrexx wrote: post #140
ji_zai wrote: post #74

This is my worst nightmare as a bootstrapped founder. And that there's no way to put a limit on spend is ridiculous. Someone that doesn't want me to do well can simply ddos me into bankruptcy out of nowhere. Just went through Vercel's docs: --- "Vercel helps to mitigate against L3 and L4 DDoS attacks at the platform level. Usage will be incurred for requests that are successfully served prior to us automatically miti…

Imagine you lost your job. So you are here enjoying creating and hosting your hobby projects in theses services. Now, suddenly one fine morning you get slapped with $104K bill because someone decided to randomly ddos your one page dog lover website. Now, who in the would would be thinking of having ddos protection for their hobby project? This is just absurd thinking.

It shouldn't be like this, but it is.

Unfortunately, in today's world, DDoS protection is the equivalent of basic hygiene, foid and road safety. It's just a travesty that the hosting providers don't feel like it's their responsibility to address it.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by Root_Denied »

jeroenhd wrote: post #165
carlmr wrote: post #100

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I guess we need regulation for this.

Why do we need regulation? "Keep the service up no matter what happens, no matter the cost" is a useful business model for companies that make the mistake of promising too many nines to their customers. The issue at hand is that people put small websites on hosting providers designed for megacorporation wealth, like Netlify. I highly doubt the average blog needs more than a $10 VPS located in one single country witho…

> "Keep the service up no matter what happens, no matter the cost" is a useful business model

I mean, yeah - but that shouldn't be the default and it shouldn't be something that you can't opt out of if it is, which is what sounds like happened with Netlify.

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by anomaly_ »

baq wrote: post #156
throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #124

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Or, rather than creating more regulations, people could read the contracts they agree to when they get service, and use a competitor if they don't like it

Yeah exactly why we need regulation - so contracts aren’t 100 pages long. DRY.

So, go to a different provider?

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by throwaway290 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #220
pacifika wrote: post #213

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That’s a free tier that doesn’t sound sustainable then, so that raises alarm bells to me.

I have heard that they rather drastically constrain QoS instead, which does sound reasonable. So you are still not charged for abusive traffic, but your service will be much slower than what is actually possible with paid tiers.

So you'd be either slow or pay them "for protection". Something that reminds me of;)

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by pushedx »

hiAndrewQuinn wrote: post #119

This happened to me on a much smaller scale about a year back. I was never happier to have stuck to my guns, building my whole site with a single `hugo` command - it made it very easy to migrate off that platform for good. If anyone has a solid bash one liner to stress test a website, so that I can test whether my cloud billing cap will work correctly if I accidentally try to egress 100 MB of data or something, I wou…

apachebench (cli command ab), is an Apache licensed stress testing utility, not much relation to the web server, which can be easily used to stress test a webserver.

the binary should be easy to install with your package manager, you may have it installed already

example:

ab http://something.com

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by rubymamis »

itake wrote: post #168
rozenmd wrote: post #154

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This might be a good time to point out Cloudflare Pages: https://pages.cloudflare.com/ Under the free tier: > Unlimited bandwidth

I'm moving everything to Cloudflare.

I'm trying to sign up but it keeps saying "Verification is taking longer than expected. Check your Internet connection and refresh the page if the issue persists."

Does anyone else experience this as well?

Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site

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Post by 6510 »

If architected properly having many people request the same file should make things work better and make it cheaper.

The internet and www are obviously marvelous technologies with many people to praise, webtorrent is nice but in a way a hack replicating things we already had.

We can do better

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