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Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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That may also be a way to generate attention/visibility for Gemini considering that they are not seen as the leader in AI anymore? Attention is all you need.

The idea that “attention is all you need” here is a handwavy explanation that doesn’t hold up against basic scrutiny. Why would Google do something this embarrassing? What could they possibly stand to gain? Google has plenty of attention as it is. They have far more to lose. Not everything has to be a conspiracy.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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seems like as if Gemini was trained excessively on Google PR and marketing material. Case in point: https://store.google.com/

Not a great link for an international audience. Here in Germany, the top image is a white person: https://i.imgur.com/wqfdJ95.png

That's an Asian person

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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We humans haven't even figured out how to discuss race, sex, or gender without it devolving into a tribal political fight. We shouldn't be surprised that algorithms we create and train on our own content will similarly be confused. Its the exact same reason we won't solve the alignment problem and have basically given up on it. We can't align humans with ourselves, we'll absolutely never define some magic ruleset tha…

Idk that those discussions human problems TBH or at least I don’t think they are distributed equally. America has a special obsession with these discussions and is a loud voice in the room.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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I don't think there's any nuance here.

Apparently this is Google's Senior Director of Product for Gemini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack--k/

And he seems to hate everything white: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG6e0D6WoAEo0zP?format=jpg&name=...

Maybe the wrong guy for the job.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a hefty percentage of the people responsible for the current day's obsession with identity issues openly state racism against white people is impossible. This has been part of their belief system for decades, probably heard on a widescale for the first time during an episode of season one of 'The Real World' in 1992 but favored in academia for much longer than that.

It's because they have a very different definition of racism. Basically, according to this belief, if you are seen as part of the ethnic group in power, you will not be able to experience noteworthy levels of discrimination because of your genetic makeup.

That sounds like a very racist defintion of racism to me.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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post #54

seems like as if Gemini was trained excessively on Google PR and marketing material. Case in point: https://store.google.com/

I’m in the UK and there’s predominantly white people showing on the page.

That’s because almost all of this is a distinctly American obsession and problem. Unfortunately it’s gleefully been exported worldwide into contexts where it doesn’t immediately — if at all — apply over the last five years or so and now we’re all saddled with this slow-growing infection.

Entire careers are built on the sort of thing that led Google to this place, and they’re not gonna give up easily.

Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is upset that an algorithm accidentally generated some images, they are upset that Google intentionally designed it to misrepresent reality in the name of Social Justice.

You mean some people's interpretation of what social justice is.

I am not sure if i should smash the upvote or downvote

/s

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