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Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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> Does it block ads? It doesn’t, I don’t think Google would like that, but if you have YouTube Premium you won’t see ads, just like the website.

I just realised that a new product means new eco system, means less/no customization possibilities.

What a wonderful world...

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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So nice to see a YouTube client that makes sense on the platform it’s on. Compare to the official YT client for iPad, for example, which bizarrely uses the same tiny Material touch targets as on phones.

The AppleTV YouTube app is so bad that I’m convinced nobody responsible for it owns a TV.

It even forces its own built in screensavers to run instead of the OS one if the app is left paused. Who approves that?!

What Steve Jobs said about Microsoft in the 90s applies to Google today: They have no taste.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Have you never had an issue while using an embedded video on a website ? Whether a message "it cannot be played, go to YouTube", or trying to select a high-resolution, or subtitles and failing ?

He addresses this: > The one downside is that occasionally you’ll get a creator who disabled playback for YouTube embeds. This is rare, especially with videos made in the last few years, but for those Juno will auto-detect that and just load up the normal video website page rather than the fancy player.

That answers my question about the embeds not playing at all (thank you, that's what I get for speed reading), but I'm curious if there are other limitations.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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It's not my role to come up with consumer-friendly business models, or to vouch for any specific ones. I'm just saying that, as a consumer, I don't want Google's business. If someone is selling apples in exchange for punching me in the face (and actually watching me and doing that while I eat, for a more accurate analogy :), then I wouldn't like going to their store. I would prefer going to the farmers' market and bu…

In your analogy when you say buying directly from the farmer by paying with cash, what does that translate to in the real world? How are you supporting content creators on YouTube if you block ads?

For most of them, I'm not. But some creators have alternative revenue streams which I do support.

This is not my problem to fix. I don't feel guilty in any way for refusing to participate in a business model I don't agree with.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #211

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It's a terrible pronoun since that usage is a retrofit of a word intended to be used as a plural.

Singular they dates back to the 14th century. Isn't 600 years long enough to stop quibbling over it?

Was here to say the same thing. OP ignoring history to double-down on gender bigotry is disappointing to find on HN.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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> Does it block ads? It doesn’t, I don’t think Google would like that, but if you have YouTube Premium you won’t see ads, just like the website. I just realised that a new product means new eco system, means less/no customization possibilities. What a wonderful world...

I wouldn't necessarily call it a new ecosystem. It's mostly the same walled garden that runs iOS/iPadOS.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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So nice to see a YouTube client that makes sense on the platform it’s on. Compare to the official YT client for iPad, for example, which bizarrely uses the same tiny Material touch targets as on phones.

Don't get me started on the official YT app on ChromeOS... it's so bad (one example: the seek bar was barely usable with a touchscreen) that I eventually disabled it, using the website is much better.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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FYI, Vinegar is well worth a couple of bucks. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vinegar-tube-cleaner/id1591303... Install it, and delete the janky "native" app. Now Youtube is a webpage that does everything it does on a regular browser. PiP? Audio with the screen locked or in the background? Yes and yes.

Does it still block ads? I happily used Vinegar before, but it lost that functionality when YouTube’s crusade against ad blockers began (I don’t recall if it just let the ads through, or if it triggered the “Ad Blocker Detected” pop-up). With that, YouTube single-handedly forced me to move browsers on all my devices – from Safari to Orion, where I get to use uBlock Origin. uBlock seems to have stayed a step ahead of…

> Does it still block ads? I happily used Vinegar before, but it lost that functionality when YouTube’s crusade against ad blockers began (I don’t recall if it just let the ads through, or if it triggered the “Ad Blocker Detected” pop-up).

It does. The experience is worse than it was a couple of months ago, though, as both YouTube and the blockers have to get creative. I think it’s engaged in the general cat-and-mouse game and occasionally I see YouTube’s anti-ad blocker screen, but usually it resolves after a day or two. Overall it’s still much better than out-of-the-box YouTube.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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> Does it block ads? It doesn’t, I don’t think Google would like that, but if you have YouTube Premium you won’t see ads, just like the website. I just realised that a new product means new eco system, means less/no customization possibilities. What a wonderful world...

I wouldn't necessarily call it a new ecosystem. It's mostly the same walled garden that runs iOS/iPadOS.

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