BTW, several years ago, a mix of mango, strawberry, and orange shake was spilled to the keyboard of a MacBook Air M1. It was not detected ;-) but the keyboard continue to work flawlessly, just a little sticky. Seriously speaking, other similar experiences with other notebooks were not great and a keyboard replacement was needed.
Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
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iPhones run iOS and, honestly, I can't stand it for a variety of reasons regardless of how nice the hardware is. Main one being that apps can only be installed from the app store. I can see myself using a jailbroken iPhone, but jailbreaks are hard to come by these days. Vast majority doesn't know what they want. They would convince themselves that whatever is currently sold must be good. But then I know at least 10 p…
Unfortunately bigger phone means more space for the battery and rest of the hardware, so companies will keep making their Pro Ultra models larger and so of course the larger ones are more of a status symbol.
But the screen consumes most of the charge in a modern phone anyway. The smaller the screen, the less battery capacity you need to get a sensible battery life. The CPU also matters, of course — that's one thing I like about my Pixel 4a, it lasts long even after 3 years because it uses a weak-ass SoC that nonetheless is perfectly capable for messaging and web browsing.
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We didn't let them go, they were taken from us by force
Revealed preferences.
Revealed preferences assumes that there are no confounding factors, no tyranny of small decisions, no information asymmetry and an unlimited selection of products that vary along every combination of features. It’s economic drivel, and serves only to dismiss opinions out of hand.
Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
#234I wonder how reliable this will be. Back in the summer, my mom plugged her iPhone in to charge, and it gave a warning saying that it couldn't charge because there was liquid in the charging port. However, the port was bone-dry, and there was no liquid anywhere near the phone. It turned out that the charger didn't like the extension cord that it was plugged into. I took the extension cord away, and the phone started c…
They'll save money on warranty repairs in that case - by blaming your mom for a water spill - so it'll all work out for them. It's not even a new trick, some scammy repair companies here in Europe loved to claim water damage to avoid warranty repairs.
They don't want to service the laptop even if you don't have warranty.
I have a Mac from 2016, probably had a minor water event, water spilled on table and slightly touched the chasis. I don't remember anything significant. The battery lasts 20 minutes in 2021, I go and ask them to replace it and they refuse because of "water damage" and warn that the machine can fry at any moment. The laptop is still running fine daily in 2024.
They can only "fix it" by charging more than a price of Macbook Air M1, they do not want to replace the battery but the whole board.
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Real question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?
Personally I never particularly liked wired headphones because of the annoyance of dealing with the wire and it breaking any time it got snagged. My Bluetooth ones last for ages without charging so it's not a big deal to charge them. Since they're pretty cheap now I think a lot of people are the same way. People love to complain about the dongle but really it just adds a couple of inches to the wire. If you can deal…
Nah the reason I complain about the dongle is because I don't know where to get a reasonably priced one with good audio except apple and theirs break like crisps crack.
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The iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. They say you must have done something you shouldn't have if that happens, like diving deep or something. They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them.
Apple recently quoted me 2,300$ to fix just one broken keyboard key (it was M, if you were wondering), because according to them the water sensors were tripped and it's policy to replace the mtherboard if that happens. Which apparently costs more than buying another two working identical MacBook Pros. The laptop has never gotten wet, and everything apart from the M key was working perfectly.
Do you live in a hot, humid climate? I think a lot of those water alarm stickers show false positives if people move from a cold, air conditioned place to the humid outdoors. Condensation is unavoidable unless you wrap the laptop in fairly airtight bag every time you go out.
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38923190
That doesn't say "Apple considers the warranty void if water ends up in the USB port", that says "Apple's warranty doesn't cover water damage". EDIT: to be clear, the warranty can absolutely be a factor! Depending on your situation, having a phone with a warranty (or maybe insurance) which covers water damage could be a good idea! It's just not as simple "water detected in USB port -> warranty void", and this "preven…
They claim it's water damage no matter the issue as soon as the indicators are triggered, though.
Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports
#238This is a feature of newer usb-c pd chipsets. See, e.g., https://www.ti.com/product/TPS25751 in the features section. Apple has historically used TI chipsets for their USB power controllers. The feature likely comes from this.
How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…
So it's a software visible GFCI circuit. Not super interesting, though sure, if the chip does it the OS should probably listen. The spin in the article about how this is all because of warranty denial revenue is pretty weird though.
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#239Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
I have a 300€ 2021 Motorola Defy. I wash it often under running water, took baths with it, no issues with the headphone jack, neither with the usb c port.
“As a user, I want to be able to take baths with my phone.”?
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My android pixel 7 reported water ingress in the usb port during a hike to kinder scout in the peak district (UK). It was raining lightly, but mostly there was a very thick fog / mist / drizzle that didn't really fall from the sky or land on you, rather it enveloped and coated you such that you were soaked. I'd only removed my phone from my waterproof jacket pocket on two occasions to verify GPS location as I was sti…
My Iphone 12 recently spent a full night in a gutter during a rainstorm, water rushing over it. It was completely fine, didn't even seem to bother the hotspot. Wonder how my warranty's doing.
I keep trying to conjure stories for how this happened.
My favorite is that you were lying passed out in a gutter all night with water rushing over you. And the phone. But you only mentioned the phone. lol.
How is your warranty doing? ;-)