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Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by gnaffle »

untog wrote: post #110
huhtenberg wrote: post #21

Well, this pretty much exhausts the pool of people who don't care for the data privacy. On the plus side, those who do want privacy are still waiting for a proper solution, and it is an opportunity. (edit) It is really shocking how absolutely mind-bogglingly ignorant people are when it comes to their data privacy matters. How could any business person in a sane state of mind choose to share its data with some 3rd par…

It is really shocking how absolutely mind-bogglingly ignorant people are when it comes to online privacy matters. A side note, but it's shocking how people are unable to believe that others are capable of making informed choices. Case in point: I use Facebook. I often get people hounding me- "don't you care about privacy?!?", "Facebook is using your data!" Yeah, I know. I don't mind. The way I see it, privacy is the…

You're OK with targeted advertising, but you're probably not OK with any number of other things Facebook and others may one day do with your personal information. Or if _you_ are, I think many, many people are not. They use Facebook because it's a great product that all their friends use.

If privacy is a new currency, you certainly don't get to set the exchange rate.

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Post by Jebus »

amirmc wrote: post #140
magicalist wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's a good thing a major point of the product is the local copy :)

Yes, but that's not really what concerns me. It's that my workflow runs through those services. To clarify, email (basically your identity online), calendars, device syncing, now file-sharing can be run through Google (and I'm sure a whole lot of other things too). If these were to disappear* I'd basically be left with a nice shiny box, where I could 'work' but in a much more limited way. It would feel like being on…

You can have some degree of peace of mind by using your own domain (it's very easy to set up in gmail). This way, if google ever decides to f*ck you, at least you can set up your own mail server (better than having your life ruined, depending on how important your email address is for you) and move on.

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Post by etrain »

hornbaker wrote: post #220

1 TB on Google Drive = $50/mo 1 TB on Amazon S3 = $125/mo (down to $55/mo for 5,000 TB) Being based on S3, Dropbox is going to have a tough time competing on price.

Until they switch backends, or negotiate with Amazon. While google has the buying power and made investment in running cheap, reliable datacenters, DropBox has so far made its investment in good software and user acquisition.

Dropbox has a number of ways out of this, and they've got a healthy user base and plenty of access to VC dollars to fix this.

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Post by redler »

The help page for "Google Storage Plans"[1] is muddled. It now states that a base Gmail account provides 10GB of space, full stop. Unless they're rounding up from the old up-ticking 7+GB, this seems to be a policy change. But a little further down on the very same page: "If you've reached or exceeded the 7 GB free storage limit, all new incoming emails will hard bounce."

It also states "When you run out of free storage space, Google offers a way to purchase storage space shared across Google Drive and Picasa Web Albums (which includes photos uploaded to Blogger)."

But further down: "If you run out of free storage for Google Drive or Picasa you can purchase additional storage that is shared across these products. When you purchase a Google storage plan your Gmail storage limit will increase to 25 GB." This implies that a purchase of any storage plan includes not only the storage with that plan, but also an extra 25GB for Gmail.

I'm hoping that's the way it works, and that this policy extends individually to legacy Apps for Domains accounts, whose free users currently have to be upgraded en masse to paid accounts to get any additional storage.

[1] http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...

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Post by teraflop »

rdl wrote: post #153
trotsky wrote: post #4

no linux platform "coming soon" - too bad

If it's an open API, couldn't you make an open source client for linux/bsd? Or is the API not fully featured? (iCloud to FUSE would be cool, too)

The API only supports webapps that are installed through the Chrome Web Store.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by [deleted] »

thpoul wrote: post #191
SODaniel wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course Google Drive is not a surprise to DropBox but I still feel that a 'One does not simply counter Google' Meme could be appropriate here.

Drew Houston has an amazing sense of humor. https://twitter.com/#!/drewhouston/status/194837482490179584

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Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by [deleted] »

thpoul wrote: post #191
SODaniel wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course Google Drive is not a surprise to DropBox but I still feel that a 'One does not simply counter Google' Meme could be appropriate here.

Drew Houston has an amazing sense of humor. https://twitter.com/#!/drewhouston/status/194837482490179584

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Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by ConstantineXVI »

rkudeshi wrote: post #62

[crosspost from the French translation thread - now that we have the official details, I think this comment is better discussed here.] So the things Google Drive has that Dropbox doesn't: * 2-factor authentication! * Comments on files * OCR - like Evernote, you can search against text in images (e.g. newspaper article) * Image recognition - if you upload a pic of the Eiffel Tower, you can find it with the search term…

Creepy, but IMHO necessary. We take the ability to search text for granted; there's no reason we shouldn't be expanding the same capabilities to images if we can.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by hyperbovine »

huhtenberg wrote: post #21

Well, this pretty much exhausts the pool of people who don't care for the data privacy. On the plus side, those who do want privacy are still waiting for a proper solution, and it is an opportunity. (edit) It is really shocking how absolutely mind-bogglingly ignorant people are when it comes to their data privacy matters. How could any business person in a sane state of mind choose to share its data with some 3rd par…

Actually, what continues to shock me is the level of sanctimony achieved by online privacy advocates. You willfully ignore the benefits of data sharing and cloud services, benefits embraced by millions of people and corporations every day, resulting in massive savings of time and money. You assume that everyone who stores anything online is "ignorant" of the ramifications, whereas in reality they are making an informed economic decision. Really the only ignorance I see here is when people issue frothy prophecies of a digital doomsday like this one, simply because the prevailing trend runs counter to their own personal philosophy.
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