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Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by zer0c00ler »

kaycebasques wrote: post #121

> The fact that we did not lose a single customer will drive us to work even harder for you, and we are all excited to get back to work. I'm not a big customer, but I am starting the process of moving away from OpenAI in response to these events

Yeah, OpenAI lost a bit of its magic. It's sad because it was really fun so far to see all the great progress.

But there are so many unanswered questions still and the lack of transparency is an issue, as is the cult like behavior that can be observed recently.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by Jensson »

gopher_space wrote: post #209
cyanydeez wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they're B2B now, that means only political correctness. and I'm not sure why anyone dances around it but these models are built by unfiltered data intake. if they actually want to harness bias, they need to do what every capitalist does to a social media platform and curate the content. lastly, bias is an illusion of choice. choosing color over colour is a byproduct of culture and you're not going to eradicate that b…

What does political correctness and bias mean in this context? edit: I'm asking because to my eye most of these conversations revolve around jargon mismatch more than anything else.

Whatever the people who buys ads decides, losing your ad revenue is the main fear of most social media and media companies.

See twitter for example, ad buyers decided it is no longer politically correct so twitter lost a lot of ad revenue. Avoiding that is one of the most important things if you want to sell a model to companies.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by dmix »

sigmar wrote: post #225
armchairhacker wrote: post #2

Do we have any more insight into why he was fired in the first place?

Not really. But Helen Toner has been tweeting a little "To be clear: our decision was about the board's ability to effectively supervise the company, which was our role and responsibility. Though there has been speculation, we were not motivated by a desire to slow down OpenAI’s work." https://twitter.com/hlntnr/status/1730034020140912901

> Though there has been speculation, we were not motivated by a desire to slow down OpenAI’s work.

Strange when their choice of interim-CEO was someone who explicitly stated he wants to see the pace of AI development go from a 10 to a 2 [1] and she regularly speaks at EA conferences where that's a major theme.

This is probably double speak for she want's to not "slow down OpenAI's work" on AI safety but probably would have kneecapped the "early" release of ChatGPT's (as she claim they should have waited much longer in her paper) and similar things.

[1] https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1703178063306203397

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by 627467 »

bag_boy wrote: post #47

Brett Taylor is probably pumped to be competing directly with Elon Musk after their Twitter interactions.

Almost no one is talking about Brett. Either he is here to scare Musk, or - more likely IMO - to act as a Musk lightning rod. Musk takeover part 2?

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by breadwinner »

krick wrote: post #210
breadwinner wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you mean out of the board, yes. But then so are Sam Altman and Greg Brockman.

Yeah, but no. "We hope to continue our working relationship and are discussing how he can continue his work at OpenAI" is not the same as "returning to OpenAI as CEO" and "returns as President". Not very subtle difference, even, huh?

Ilya is the first guy Sam acknowledged. I believe Sam when he says he harbors zero ill will against Ilya.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by photochemsyn »

Open source your code and models or change your name to "ProprietaryAI" which I think has a nice ring to it suitable for marketing on CNN and MSNBC and FOX.

"Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI Chief Scientist) on Open Source vs Closed AI Models"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N36wtDYK8kI

Deer in the headlights much? The Internet is forever.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by GauntletWizard »

htk wrote: post #212

Can't help but feel weird about all the thanking in the letter, especially the "sincere" thanks to Tasha and Helen, the possible main antagonists in this soap opera. It's like a written version of the heart emojis in their Twitter exchanges.

Being the bigger man and giving backhanded compliments often sound similar. Either is better that tirades against your defeated enemies, at least when you're trying to act as a civil business.

A heavy sigh, a bit of grumbling, might be more honest, but there's a reason that businesses prefer to keep a stuff upper lip.

Re: Sam Altman returns as CEO, OpenAI has a new initial board

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Post by Jensson »

htk wrote: post #212

Can't help but feel weird about all the thanking in the letter, especially the "sincere" thanks to Tasha and Helen, the possible main antagonists in this soap opera. It's like a written version of the heart emojis in their Twitter exchanges.

We know the board said that he was two-faced and that was one of the reasons he was fired.
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