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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Larry Summers? He has no technical experience, torpedoed the stimulus plan in 2008, and had to resign the Harvard presidency following a messy set of statements about ‘differences’ between the sexes and their mental abilities. Kind of a shocking choice.

a huge player in preventing derivatives regulation leading up to 2008 now helps steer the ship of AI oversight. I'm speechless.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #185

At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

> Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya) If you open up openai.com, the navigation menu shows Research, API, ChatGPT, Safety I believe they belong to @ilyasut, @gbd, @sama and Helen Toner respectively?

I have checked View Source and also inspected DOM. Cannot find that.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

This is a coherent narrative, but it doesn't explain the bizarre and aggressively worded initial press release.

Things perhaps could've been different if they'd pointed to the founding principles / charter and said the board had an intractable difference of opinion with Sam over their interpretation, but then proceeded to thank him profusely for all the work he'd done. Although a suitable replacement CEO out the gate and assurances that employees' PPUs would still see a liquidity event would doubtless have been even more important than a competent statement.

Initially I thought for sure Sam had done something criminal, that's how bad the statement was.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#235

At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

> I think only a minority of the general public truly cares about AI Safety, the rest are happy seeing ChatGPT helping with their homework Not just the public, but also the employees. I doubt there are more than a handful of employees who care about AI Safety.

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #128

One of the more interesting aspects from this entire saga was that Helen Toner recently wrote a paper critical of OpenAI and praising Anthropic. Yet where OpenAI’s attempt at signaling may have been drowned out by other, even more conspicuous actions taken by the company, Anthropic’s signal may have simply failed to cut through the noise. By burying the explanation of Claude’s delayed release in the middle of a long,…

> That is indeed quite the paper to write whilst on the board of OpenAI, to say the least.

It strikes me as exactly the sort of thing she should be writing given OpenAI's charter. Recognizing and rewarding work towards AI safety is good practice for an organization whose entire purpose is the promotion of AI safety.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…

About 3)

What is the benefit of learning about this kind of drama minute-by-minute, compared to reading it a few hours later on hacker news or next day on wall street journal?

Personally I found twitter very bad for my productivity, a lot of focus destroyed just to know "what is happening" when there was neglible drawbacks of finding about news events a few hours later.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

#239

Larry Summers? He has no technical experience, torpedoed the stimulus plan in 2008, and had to resign the Harvard presidency following a messy set of statements about ‘differences’ between the sexes and their mental abilities. Kind of a shocking choice.

Could have been worse, they could have picked Larry David, would fit the clown-show of the past weekend.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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From a business sense, Satya was excellent. He made the right calls, fast, with limited information. Things further shifted from plan a to b to… whatever this is. Despite that, MSFT still came out on top. Consider if Satya didn’t say anything. Suppose MSFT stood back and let things play out. That’s a gap for google or some competitor to make a move. To showcase their stability and long term business friendly vision.…

Satya may honestly be the CEO of the decade for what he has done with Microsoft and now this.
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