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OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
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Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#232Giving 2 people the same project? Isnt this like the thing to do to get differing approaches and then release the amalgamation of the two? I thought these sorts of things are common. Giving different opinions on same person is a reason to fire a CEO? This board has no reason to fire, or does not want to give the actual reason to fire Sam. They messed up.
Steve Jobs famously had two iPhone teams working on concepts in parallel. It was click wheel vs multi-touch. Shockingly the click wheel iPhone lost.
I thought the design team always worked up 3 working prototypes from a set of 10 foam mockups. There was an article from someone with intimate knowledge of Ives lab some years back stating this was protocol for all Apple products.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#2331) Where is Emmett? He's the CEO now. It's his job to be the public face of the company. The company is in an existential crisis and there have been no public statements after his 1AM tweet. 2) Where is the board? At a bare minimum, issue a public statement that you have full faith in the new CEO and the leadership team, are taking decisive action to stabilize the situation, and have a plan to move the company forwar…
Yes these people should all be doing more to feed internet drama! If they don't act soon, HN will have all sorts of wild opinions about what's going on and we can't have that! Even worse, if we don't have near constant updates, we might realize this is not all that important in the end and move on to other news items! I know, I know, I shouldn't jest when this could have grave consequences like changing which uri you…
You can either act like a professional and control the messaging or let others fill the vacuum with idle speculation. I'm quite frankly in shock as to the level of responsibility displayed by people whose position should demand high function.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which would have had been a tradeoff too. More time to market, fewer people on each project, slowed down by cross platform code.
They would have just forked the code and maybe merged some changes back and forth, no real need for cross-platform code.
This was pre-1983. Forking wasn't a thing at the time. Any kind of code management was cutting edge, and cross-platform shared code wasn't even dreamed of yet.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#235There is no way this is true. If it is the board might be the dumbest people alive. You fire the CEO and completely destroy a 90b company because of these two reasons? No wonder everyone wants out. I would think I was going crazy if I sat in a meeting and heard these two reason.
If you're in the EA cult and think all frontier AI development needs to be paused, it's perfectly reasonable. Just speculating here though.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#236> One explanation was that Altman was said to have given two people at OpenAI the same project. Have these people never worked at any other company before? Probably every company with more than 10 employees does something like this.
Actually, they haven’t. One is some policy analyst and the other is an actor’s wife.
Tasha Macauley is an electrical engineer who founder of two tech companies, besides having a cute husband.
And the other guy is the founder of Quora and Poe.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#237Giving 2 people the same project? Isnt this like the thing to do to get differing approaches and then release the amalgamation of the two? I thought these sorts of things are common. Giving different opinions on same person is a reason to fire a CEO? This board has no reason to fire, or does not want to give the actual reason to fire Sam. They messed up.
Giving two groups of researchers the same problem is guaranteeing one team will scoop the other. Hard to divvy up credit after the fact.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#238Given the nonsensical reason provided here, I am led to believe that this entire farce is aimed at transforming OpenAI from a non-profit to a for-profit company one way or another, e.g., significantly raising the profit cap, or even changing it completely to a for-profit model. There may not be a single entity scheming or orchestrating it, but the collective forces that could influence this outcome would be very plea…
But was delivering it into the hands of Microsoft really how they wanted it to happen?
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#239Giving 2 people the same project? Isnt this like the thing to do to get differing approaches and then release the amalgamation of the two? I thought these sorts of things are common. Giving different opinions on same person is a reason to fire a CEO? This board has no reason to fire, or does not want to give the actual reason to fire Sam. They messed up.
Steve Jobs famously had two iPhone teams working on concepts in parallel. It was click wheel vs multi-touch. Shockingly the click wheel iPhone lost.
Another element of that was the team that tried to adapt iPodOS for iPhone vs Forstall's team that adapted OSX.
Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired
#240Launched Thursday morning: https://x.com/poe_platform/status/1725194752901988744?s=46
Fortunately no conflict of interest there. Ignore the guy behind the curtain.