I guess Satya Nadella really like this guy
Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their alternative is to start a new AI company. At this point in time a new AI company would be bottle-necked by lack of NVIDIA GPUs. They are sold out for the medium term future. So if Sam and Greg were to start a new AI company, even with billions of initial capital (very likely given their street cred) they would spend at a minimum several months just acquiring the hardware needed to compete with OpenAI. With Micr…
> So Microsoft decided to compete with OpenAI They already do, though, has everyone forgot they got a Microsoft Research division?
Nope, VirtualWiFi looked promising in 2006.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#233I'm guessing this is the end of OpenAI. People aren't going to want to work at OpenAI anymore due to the value destruction that just occurred. It's going to be hard for them to raise money now because of the bad rep they have now. It going to be hard for them to hire top talent. You have two leaders, top engineers and researchers leaving the company. Google and Facebook come in a grab up any top talent that still the…
I agree, any potential hire who has the choice between OpenAI and the new team at MSFT will now choose the latter. And a lot of the current team will follow as well. This is probably the end of OpenAI. Can't say I'm too sad, finally a chance to erase that misleading name from history.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#234I think people underestimate how much of a company’s value is in their key leadership, select talent, and technology. When a company is acquired those are typically the reasons to do so other than pure revenue acquisition. Microsoft already has their technology, now has the key leadership, and will soon have the select talent. Satya wins, OpenAI is walking dead.
Satya really goated here.
He takes advantage of this situation and make OpenAI's assets in his control more than ever.
He is the genius, scary even.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#235Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#236Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…
Microsoft got Copilot. They were first to establish the brand. OpenAI technologies let them do it. I don't know how much Copilot brand cost, but right now when you're thinking about AI-assisted programming, Copilot is the first thing comes in mind. So probably they got something in return.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#237Weird. Why did not he start a new company?
Being able to raise money doesn't necessarily translate into success. Perhaps his new crew won't be able to replicate the secret sauce. Or Satya just gave terms favourable enough to convince him at least for now to avoid giving off the impression that Microsoft's investment in OpenAI is incinerated.
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#238I am confusion. What a whirlwind weekend.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#239Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…
> Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Into the shackles of ever-controlling mega-corp?
24k gold shackles for a year or two and then onto the next thing.
Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#240Listen. I was confused when the whole thing was going down. I was more confused when the whole "board wants to backtrack and maybe resign" thing was going down. I got even more confused when Emmett Shear was announced as the CEO. ...but never in a hundred years would I have imagined "haha just join Microsoft" as an actual alternative. I remain, confused.
All the claims about how OpenAI's board desperately wanted Altman back were based on leaks from "people close to Altman" which the press uncritically lapped up.
If it wasn't clear before, it should be clear in hindsight that the board's desire to welcome Altman back was, at best, overstated.
The leaks were probably an attempt to pressure the board or, failing that, undermine OpenAI.