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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Post by spike021 »

danielbln wrote: post #193
kccqzy wrote: post #183

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Yup. That's exactly what I predict Apple will do. RCS messaging will still have green bubbles. And it will continue to have the same psychological effect as SMS green bubbles do today. I think that's also why GP said there won't be a decline in iMessage usage.

So weird reading this from the transatlantic sidelines, where noone cares one little bit what device a message was sent from.

I live in America and literally nobody I know cares about this.

Unfortunately I think it's just the typical remnant of the old Mac vs Windows haters who come out of the woodwork online to make it sound like a problem.

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Post by spike021 »

ghodith wrote: post #219
Spooky23 wrote: post #202

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Nobody does, it’s a bitchy trope. Green bubbles matter in group chats. You can’t easily change participants and stuff like reactions generate junk messages.

Very much not a trope. I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.

That sounds like a people problem, not a tech problem.

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Post by xattt »

greentea23 wrote: post #136
hedora wrote: post #40

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The only reason they'd move to E2EE would be if Apple forced them. Looking at / selling message contents is a large potential revenue source for all the other major players.

I am fairly certain that it's illegal to sell the content of SMS messages in the United States at least. The metadata like who is messaging who and timestamps and best guess locations maybe is sold though. But the contents can be obtained by law enforcement. However, I think the contents are purged after some expiration time.

> … fairly certain that it's illegal to sell the content of SMS messages in the United States at least

There will be some ridiculous loophole like leasing will be allowed of all vowels on Mondays, and all consonants on Tuesdays.

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Post by solardev »

ralferoo wrote: post #229

As an Android user, it'd be nice if replying "No" to "Do you want RCS?" meant "Never ask me again" and wasn't just interpreted as "ask me again in next week and every week thereafter".

Pssst... you sure you don't want RCS? All your cool blue bubble friends are using it now!

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Post by viraptor »

I wonder what's the play here. They seem to make noise about RCS recently and give it attention, even though it seems they'll be forced by the EU to open up the iMessage system soon. Apple is not known for Google's "let's have 5 different communication apps at the same time", so... what's happening here?

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Post by nerdix »

swozey wrote: post #161
earthboundkid wrote: post #138

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Yes, I think I got my first iPhone around 2010, and at the time I was still on limited text message plan. I don't think I got unlimited texts until 2014 or something.

Damn 2014?? My years are all skewed nowadays.

I think he's in the minority because everyone I knew had unlimited SMS by the mid-00s before the iPhone was released.

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Post by turquoisevar »

summerlight wrote: post #6

The next significant step would be opening up iMessage and I'm pretty sure that Apple already has implemented most of it. Otherwise, they cannot realistically follow the DMA timeline in the worst case where EU designate iMessage as a gatekeeper.

That's never going to happen for two main reasons.

The first one is that, despite the EU’s blatant attempt to carve the rules around the likes of Apple while simultaneously trying to shield EU companies, they've overestimated the amount of iMessage users, excluding iMessage from the DMA rules.

The other one, which is more important in this discussion, is that the EU kept the definitions of services rather broad to the degree that Apple’s adoption of RCS will automatically fulfill the interoperability requirement.

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Post by tg180 »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #186
Andrex wrote: post #160

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I mean, they're doing it right now. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/google-messa...

The telcos don’t actually provide E2EE. That layer is offered by Google itself, and RCS carries encrypted data, last I checked. Not sure if Apple is going to interoperate with it.

> That layer is offered by Google itself > Not sure if Apple is going to interoperate with it.

Only if both users in a 1:1 chat are using Google Messages. E2EE is not possible even with Samsung Messages, so I highly doubt it.

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