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Even though FB/Meta is hiring again and you apply with a referral link, even as US citizen you still get no responses.
No email, no phone call, totally ghosted.
Almost seems like their job board is to appease DOJ rules but they hire on other criteria.
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It's a good question. There's just something about being in the same country. It's hard to explain why though. I work for a fully remote company. Most of us are based in the US but the company also hires people from some other countries through some kind of agency. Even though many, probably a majority of the US-based people are immigrants (myself included), and many don't speak English any better than the agency peo…
> It's a good question. There's just something about being in the same country. It's hard to explain why though. Simply speaking, it's better to expand vertically because it's a lot easier to work with people in the same time zone. That's one reason tech is on the west coast.
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Its naive to think expanding the labor pool wouldnt reduce labor costs. Its supply and demand/economics 101. And obviously they (and every other company) is going to complain they cant fill positions locally in order to gain access to this cheaper pool.
If you're posting something is econ 101 you're probably wrong, and you're especially wrong if you claim adding people increases supply but not demand. People ARE demand. Labor economists don't use "econ 101", and importantly they prefer empirical evidence over theory.
People are not damand, I have no idea what that even means in the relevant context.
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> Obviously you displaced a US citizen [...] I'm not sure this is obvious. 1) Apple is a multi-national company, and hires an employee in the UK. 2) This employee relocates to the US At what point do they displace the US citizen? All Apple jobs are not earmarked for US citizens (+residents, etc...), and they're already doing the job when they move to the US. Unless they're hired abroad for the express purpose of relo…
According to TFA, the discrimination happens when Apple doesn’t adequately look for a U.S. employee and instead chooses to to relocate you to the US. How is that not obvious? If Apple is happy to hire you in the UK and you’re happy to live there, the DOJ isn’t going to ask many questions.
My comment argues that independent of government policy, relocating an existing employee from one country to another does not consume a position that was otherwise free, unless the employee was hired expressly for the purpose of relocation.
FB had such a case in 2018. Even though FB/Meta is hiring again and you apply with a referral link, even as US citizen you still get no responses. No email, no phone call, totally ghosted. Almost seems like their job board is to appease DOJ rules but they hire on other criteria.
Reading into the press release, there is a distinction that probably escapes most native citizens here: they are talking about EB2 visa, not H1B. PERM certification is not the same labor certification done in H1B. PERM is a much more rigorous and demanding process and it costs a lot more money than anything related to H1B. The reason is because it leads to a green card, not just a work permit. Often, it requires an a…
I hope that by this you mean Native Americans. Or are colonizers now considered native citizens?
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EB2 requirements: BS or equivalent + 5 years of progressive experience. Or, alternatively, a very light version of EB-1 "exceptional ability" checklist. The fees are couple grand and the major expense is in interviewing and rejecting enough candidates to justify the need. You seem to be confusing it with EB-1. While it's true these people already work there etc. etc. EB2, just like EB3, requires the DOL certification…
> It's literally a claim that there are no US citizens or LPRs who could do that job. How credible you'd think such a claim is? Very credible, because people already employed don’t really count. It doesn’t matter at what company. Imagine someone leaves whatever company they are at to take the role at Apple. Now the company the employee left has an opening that can’t be filled. And that’s how it works. Otherwise there…
Why don't they count? Already employed people are recruited by Apple, I get spammed by Apple recruiters, I know a dozen of people who had been poached by Apple from various companies. Apple does hire people who are already employed, they pay quite a bit more so many employed people are looking if not for increased prestige then for increased TC.
>Imagine someone leaves whatever company they are at to take the role at Apple. Now the company the employee left has an opening that can’t be filled.
I am not sure I follow, this is obviously false on its face. Why exactly can not it be filled?
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happens every time where I work. once you get a manager from India, they will rarely hire anyone other than Indians again.
Every group does this, but its okay to openly write discriminatory shit against Indians and chinese online. Just look at the academic hiring phds for aerospace related department in US and tell me its not filled with hispanics. When you start pointing fingers at people other than Indian/SEA and Chinese now it gets into the racist territory.
I have worked at other FAANGs where I see certain immigrant managers only seem to hire other immigrants from the same country...
I have worked at other FAANGs where I see certain immigrant managers only seem to hire other immigrants from the same country...
Interviews are a poor proxy for predicting on-the-job performance. The manager is disproportionately affected by poor performance of an employee. So, they try to minimize it. To do that, they try to get signals outside of the traditional interviews. And one such extra signal is reputation. Seeking candidates with high reputation leads to developers with open source contributions getting hired, but also those from the manager’s personal network get hired too.
This effect is not limited to immigrant managers.