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We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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Reminder: the impetus for this is a person was thrown underneath the AV by a human-driven hit and run.

The AV did not handle it well -- it should have stopped immediately, rather than pull over.

But it's really important not to lose sight of the fact that this situation would have been completely avoided if both cars had been AVs.

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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In Seattle, you can beat a driver to the airport using the train…unless you live in Ballard, or any other place not on the I5 corridor. I never bothered with taking the train to the Beijing airport either, even though it existed for much of time there. Taxi was still more convenient. If we are talking Tokyo or Paris, ok, no problem, but it doesn’t make sense in a lot of cities for a lot of connections to be made.

Hah, looking forward to our 2039 light rail presence in Ballard.

2032 West Seattle checking in.

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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Is it ass-up?

Unrelated, but what's the goal of obfuscating obviously known "bad" words ?

Some do it because others are offended if they see them in full print.

Others do it because in many places you wont pass moderation without it.

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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"People who like different things than me definitely have pathological issues." Good luck winning people to your side with that.

I’m not trying to win anybody over. Agoraphobia is a real disease. Look it up.

Yeah, believe it or not I'm familiar with that word. Is it really that hard to understand that other people simply might not like the same things as you?

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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> 40,000 deaths in the United States every year. Hundreds of thousands of costly accidents Somehow, after a decade of hype, it doesn’t seem like driverless cars are the most direct path to solving that problem. > Let’s start by having trains take you to the airport directly I feel like that exists in a lot of places? Not sure what you mean.

Driverless cars are significantly safer than human drivers. https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2309/2309.01206.pdf

Which is in generally cherry-picked areas with very cherry picked weather conditions. And manual take-over when things get ‘weird’.

And waymo drives so conservatively to achieve that it drives most drivers around them crazy. No way it would work in Italy, South Korea, India, etc.

Still impressive engineering, but not very practical or economic unfortunately,

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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“What incredible inconvenience are we trying to solve?” 40,000 deaths in the United States every year. Hundreds of thousands of costly accidents We can’t get great transportation even in the New York City area. We have 0 miles of high-speed rail, while China built 25,000 it’s great that you want to start building some mass transit, but it’ll take a century if we start now. Let’s start by having trains take you to the…

> Let’s start by having trains take you to the airport directly… Why should trains be the only alternative to driverless cars? What is difficult about buying a few buses and start taking people to the airport, today?

They already exist. They suck.

Re: We have decided to pause driverless operations across all of our fleets

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“What incredible inconvenience are we trying to solve?” 40,000 deaths in the United States every year. Hundreds of thousands of costly accidents We can’t get great transportation even in the New York City area. We have 0 miles of high-speed rail, while China built 25,000 it’s great that you want to start building some mass transit, but it’ll take a century if we start now. Let’s start by having trains take you to the…

There are over 30 US cities with trains to the airport. Another half dozen on the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airport_rail_link_syst... US also has almost 350 miles of high speed rail, not 0. The Northeast is where it’s all concentrated with Acela being the fastest. If you live in a major city in the States it’s often way easier and faster to take rail. In Seattle for instance you can beat a driver to…

>US also has almost 350 miles of high speed rail, not 0

Given the size of the US, 350 reads as very close to 0.

>Lastly NYC is one of the most serviced by transit areas in the world? Are you living in an alternate universe?

Perhaps the one where e.g. underground transit is an ill-maintained, dirty, and often dangerous experience.

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