Narges Mohammadi wins 2023 Nobel Peace Prize

Post by thriftwy » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 6:46 PM UTC

lolinder wrote: post #221

LindeBuzoGray wrote: post #148

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> Think of what this woman and many other women trapped in these regimes are going through Iran had a parliament in 1953, when the US and UK launched operation Ajax after the prime Minister nationalized Iran's oil. The prime Minister was ousted, a dictator replaced him - who returned to Iran on a flight with Allen Dulles. The conservative mullahs were western allies in removing power from the parliament. Then this st…

Your reply is a complete non sequitur. This is a prize awarded by the 2023 Norwegian Nobel Committee, appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. The oldest member of the committee was 4 years old in 1953, and all five are Norwegian, not American or British. The person who received the award is an Iranian woman. Why the hell is the bad behavior of the CIA in 1953 relevant to this discussion? "The West" is not a monolithic…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 6:55 PM UTC

binarymax wrote: post #103

It would be nice if instead of everyone hating on the prize, we could take a moment and reflect. Think of what this woman and many other women trapped in these regimes are going through, the sacrifices they've made, and the bravery they show to try to make things better. Think the prize is politicized and corrupt? Whatever - it's not about you or your opinion.

Post by AnonCoward42 » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 6:57 PM UTC

trimethylpurine wrote: post #105

AnonCoward42 wrote: post #95

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> This is because civil rights are a Western ideology. They certainly didn't come from ISIS' views on women. Nor from Russia and China, who supported them. How do you come to the conclusion that Russia and China support ISIS?

The insurgency was armed with Russian and Chinese equipment that was given to Iraq between 2003 and 2009. You can read about the Iraqi Insurgency for more information. But more generally, US, China, Russia have all been fighting/arming proxy wars over there for around 50 years.

Post by wheelerof4te » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 7:25 PM UTC

AlbertCory wrote: post #194

wheelerof4te wrote: post #17

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"social movements." LOL, try harder. NGOs paid by the westerners are a thing, but you sure know that. If these people did not get free money for their actions, they would be silent. "Do people under authoritarian regimes have any agency?" "Authoritarian regimes" usually have popular support since a huge majority supports the ruling party. Otherwise, the country would not be stable and vast sums of western money would…

There's a simple test of"a huge majority supports the ruling party": Have a fair election, where both sides are permitted to make their case to the voting public. No candidates or supporters would be imprisoned or legally harassed, before or after the election. Then have another one a year or two later, since "your vote actually counts" would be a teaching moment for people who aren't used to it.

Post by alickz » Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 7:36 PM UTC

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toyg wrote: post #89

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As others said, the prize was well before drone strikes were a thing. It was basically honouring the effort to run and win the US presidential election as a black man, something nobody had ever managed to do.

Because being a black man is what really matters in a presidential election. Got it.