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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by jcelerier » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:42 PM UTC

headwayoldest wrote: post #227

astrange wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again a good time to remember that there were multiple perfectly good package managers available when Homebrew was invented, they were more future-proof (by eg not putting files in /usr/local), and everyone only switched to it because for some reason Ruby programmers wanted all of their tools to be written in Ruby (and possibly by people with waxed mustaches.)

Ultimately users will go where the package maintainers are. There are more people out there willing and able to write Ruby today than Perl (Fink) or TCL (MacPorts). I'm sure someone will start a macOS package manager based on python and yum to signal the waning days of those technologies.

I'm secretly hoping for a makepkg / pacman-based replacement to homebrew, to have the same set of commands and package naming conventions across mac / win / linux

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by kylehotchkiss » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:42 PM UTC

I love the included high quality wallpapers. Apple's spent a lot of money filming these around the world and they serve as a nice blend of vibrant but without being so high contrast I can't see my icons.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by Condition1952 » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:43 PM UTC

pupppet wrote: post #211

Every time a new MacOS version is announced the 1Password staff must be all sitting around praying Apple doesn't add any more bells and whistles to Keychain.

It’s a matter of time that they get sherlocked

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by kylehotchkiss » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:43 PM UTC

divbzero wrote: post #30

I’ve used Nativefier for years and am excited for this new feature described in the release notes: > Web apps let you use any website like an app, complete with an icon in the Dock for faster access and a simplified toolbar for easier browsing.

The first app I enabled it for is Slack. The calling functionality doesn't seem enabled there but everything else looked and felt great. Finally, don't need to use all my cutting-edge tech's capabilities just to run a bunch of chromiums side by side.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by saaspirant » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

runjake wrote: post #228

cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Context? Homebrew is working fine on Sonoma here. I do not get that or a similar message.

He is talking about MAC OS 11 Big Sur

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by bnastic » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:46 PM UTC

pyr0hu wrote: post #113

Nice, time for the yearly reinstall. I usually reinstall my MacBook whenever the new OS releases, it keeps my machine clean and fast.

Used to that... but once I accumulated a heap of AU plugins I just couldn't bear the thought of spending a weekend reinstalling all that again (plus most of them won't work with the new macOS on day one).

Maybe time to upgrade to Ventura now.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by Condition1952 » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:46 PM UTC

oxonia wrote: post #208

n8henrie wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-install-macos The homebrew team seems incredibly burnt-out, to the point of hostility. I've really enjoyed the nixpkgs community so far and encourage others to check it out; it hasn't replaced homebrew entirely for me (yet), but it's getting closer every day.

Yes, the Homebrew message does seem unnecessarily hostile. Not everyone can afford to buy a brand new computer every year.

Those peasants are bound to suffer the wrath of planned obsolescence.

macOS could be a modular rolling release, but you need to milk the peasants from time to time

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by esafak » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:47 PM UTC

RetpolineDrama wrote: post #109

Almondsetat wrote: post #12

You realize OS innovation has ground to a halt when the first feature advertised in a new version is screen savers

The new screen savers were bumped up the priority queue because Apple has a bunch of QD-OLED computers coming next year and they're worried about burn-in.

Got a source for that?

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

runjake wrote: post #228

cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Context? Homebrew is working fine on Sonoma here. I do not get that or a similar message.

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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by bshacklett » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

n8henrie wrote: post #197

cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-install-macos The homebrew team seems incredibly burnt-out, to the point of hostility. I've really enjoyed the nixpkgs community so far and encourage others to check it out; it hasn't replaced homebrew entirely for me (yet), but it's getting closer every day.

My issue with Nix is that you are forced to install packages in a global location. Why is it that every package manager assumes I’m an administrator on my machine? Even if I am, how does it make sense to take over a global directory as a single user?