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Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Post by aurareturn »

Perenti wrote: post #226
aurareturn wrote: post #172

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Just because alcohol is bad for you, doesn't mean weed is good for you. I believe it's easier to get addicted to weed than alcohol. I think time will prove me right. Think of it this way. Let's say there are 100 people in a society. Without weed, 5 are addicted to alcohol. With weed, 20 are addicted to weed and 3 are addicted to alcohol. Yes, there will be fewer alcohol addicts, but we added 20 weed addicts. Is this…

Your 20 pot heads are most dangerous to sweets and junk food. The alcoholics drive, get angry and start fights. I'd much rather be in a room with 20 stoners than 5 drunks.

I agree with you. Absolutely.

My stance is, just because alcohol is bad for you, doesn’t mean weed is good for you.

I’d rather not be in a room with either group though.

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Post by Vecr »

claytongulick wrote: post #195
Vecr wrote: post #78

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Can you explain about the milk? Is it just the sugar content or something else? I'm genuinely interested, I've never heard about that before.

Completely aside from the bizarre habit of adults drinking lactate from a different species - the milk industry is scary (at best). Cows are hooked up to metal frames with tubes going in and out of all the holes, being pumped full of hormones to keep them lactating. These tubes, of course, cause infection so they are also pumped full of antibiotics. The produced milk contains infectious pus. The FDA has (weak) standa…

Standard milk is not bacteria free, standard pasteurization absolutely does not inactivate or kill all bacteria. Someone with an even somewhat healthy immune system should be fine, otherwise you could see if you could get it shipped in from Florida where some specialty suppliers run it under the beam. As with any animal or plant product the FDA and USDA can't set arbitrarily strict standards, as grown products are not perfect. I'm sure some percent of the allowed bug content in produce is infected/contaminated with bacteria as well. The US has one of the top rated food systems in the world[0], but it won't keep that rating, especially in the food access and safety net score, if most of the food is thrown away for not being "perfect". Milk naturally has calcium in it that can be treated with vitamin D3, making it a good delivery vehicle. It would probably be better if everyone capable of digesting milk drank it at a consistent level across the population, as there are currently problems in some demographics are areas.

[0]: potentially worse than the UK and Denmark, other systems are either tradeoffs or strictly worse.

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Post by somsak2 »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #117
ramblenode wrote: post #110

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It could also be the psychiatrist realizes it's bad but, being in a group probably filled with bad habits, has to pick which battles to fight.

> has to pick which battles to fight. One can also pick how to battle. A hostile zero tolerance edict wasn't necessary to anything.

and yet the only way many addicts can get and stay clean is through exactly a zero tolerance approach

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Post by eep_social »

aurareturn wrote: post #199
candiddevmike wrote: post #190

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You're painting with a pretty broad brush there. What's so bad about being lazy? What's wrong with eating certain kinds of food? What are your thoughts on coffee/caffeine addiction?

When I quit smoking weed, I reflected on the reasons why I decided to quit. Since HN is mostly pro-weed use, I will most likely get downvoted. But it doesn't matter. I was staunchly on the pro-weed side just a few weeks ago as well until I started reading the downsides and realized that most applied to me and I was an addict. I was a "responsible" user early on as well. Perhaps this post will help someone else here r…

I wish you success in developing your three week old belief into a resilient source of intrinsic motivation. I hope for you that it is a sustainable and healthy belief.

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Post by throwaway5959 »

binary132 wrote: post #177
throwaway5959 wrote: post #4

The only way I can deal with my sociopathic coworkers is through cannabis use, so I’ll roll the dice. Edit: downvote me daddy

You’ve probably considered this, but habitual use actually makes it harder to cope.

I don’t use it often enough for that, thankfully. Just every once in a while to reset and take the edge off.

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

kromem wrote: post #45

Just a reminder for anyone reading this that CBD has been shown to be an effective antipsychotic in its own right [1], and particularly in regards to THC related psychosis [2]. It's probably not a great idea that the industry is moving towards high concentration THC and low to zero CBD product. The "naturally occurring plant" is getting further and further from what's naturally occurring with the psychosis inducing c…

Yeah, cannabis contains a multitude on cannabinoids: THC, CBD, CBN, CBG and CBC. These high-thc & low-cbd strains fuck you up immensely.

Not saying you should never use weed, if I go to Amsterdam, I will for sure use it but I don't bring it back home with me. Smoking once every couple of months will not harm you at all, IMHO.

Re: Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder

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Post by aurareturn »

Perenti wrote: post #230
aurareturn wrote: post #159

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Jut an FYI, weed makes sleep quality worse. Also, your tolerance will build up over time. 5mg THC won't work in the future. You'll have to up it to 10mg, then 15, then 30 and so on.

Not always true. I'm prescribed medical CBD, THC and flowers, and pure indica strains help with sleep. Sativa is as you say, it makes sleep worse. Without "Spectrum Red #1" I sleep in 2 hour shifts. I consume about 0.3 gm (whole herb vaporiser) around 9pm, by 11pm I'm asleep for 6-8 hours. Most importantly, I don't wake wishing I'd died in my sleep. Note that I'm on CBD, so I don't get "psychotic" side effects. I als…

Weed lowers sleep quality and completely destroys REM sleep. There are numerous studies confirming this. Over time, your brain and body will be deprived of good quality sleep.

If you met me in real life before I was an addict, you’d think that I’m the most ambitious person, sharp thinker, completely normal with no mental issues. No alcohol addiction. Never done any drugs. Never smoked cigarettes.

You wouldn’t think of me as someone who should never use weed. That’s what’s scary about weed addiction.

PS. There’s almost no difference between a sativa and indica anymore. They’re all hybrids. Most of the time, it’s just placebo. That’s why edibles don’t label whether it’s sativa or indica. Just THC content.

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Post by aurareturn »

eep_social wrote: post #234
aurareturn wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I quit smoking weed, I reflected on the reasons why I decided to quit. Since HN is mostly pro-weed use, I will most likely get downvoted. But it doesn't matter. I was staunchly on the pro-weed side just a few weeks ago as well until I started reading the downsides and realized that most applied to me and I was an addict. I was a "responsible" user early on as well. Perhaps this post will help someone else here r…

I wish you success in developing your three week old belief into a resilient source of intrinsic motivation. I hope for you that it is a sustainable and healthy belief.

It isn't a three week old belief. It's a life long belief that was temporarily stopped by weed.

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

jalino23 wrote: post #157
manicennui wrote: post #149

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I learned a new word: labile. "Apt or likely to change."

I didnt know that word before reading this too. is it grammatically correct to say "there is nothing more non-labile than a temporary code"

The sentence is grammatically correct because as per the rules of English grammar the nouns/verbs/other parts of the speech are in the correct locations.

The overall sentence is syntactically incorrect because you forgot to put a question mark at the end.

The sentence is semantically correct (which you actually meant to ask), though with a better alternate, as explained by the sibling comment.

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #56
01100011 wrote: post #22

Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends and has used cannabis for a significant portion of my half-century on Earth, cannabis usage is proportional to mood instability in myself and my friends. I have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile whe…

> Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. This can be true at the same time that cannabis use disorder increases the likelihood of mental illness is true. These are not mutually exclusive.

s/he said that.
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