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YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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I have a bootloader, an internet connection and the C manual! I shall conquer the world!

what next, an open source DRAM controller? :D

nononono, first you need a risc-v cpu!

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I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

YouTube doesn’t have DRM on non paid content. If they did, the situation would be way different.

They’ll fix that with the web integrity API.

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Now hang one hot minute! What on earth are you talking about? Recording radio or television for personal use is illegal now? Are we so used to not owning a single thing that these things are alien to us now? I mean, I'm not misremembering the era where people taped shows to watch them later, am I? Also, pardon my language, but fuck off with your "watching videos on YT's platform". It's my user agent, my hardware, my…

>It's my user agent, my hardware, my actions that are causing the video to be shown technically, you are asking for a video to be shown and Google chooses to show it to you. We don't really have the power dynamic to say "we allow google to execute their code", because we are the ones seeking their service.

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Except one is an explicitly enumerated constitutional right.

You can legally bear arms even if it is illegal for manufacturers to sell to citizens.

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Except one is an explicitly enumerated constitutional right.

You can legally bear arms even if it is illegal for manufacturers to sell to citizens.

Keeping and bearing necessarily imply the right to acquire.

It's a lot like saying that you can write all the words you want. However, it is illegal for you to buy a pen.

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#236

It's amazing what kind of mental gymnastics can allow someone to think you can watch a video without downloading it. Lawyers live in a world very unlike reality.

That’s the Hamburg Court for you. It is well known for not having any clue about IT and often getting the most ridiculous results.

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#237

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After the second false claim you should have had your legal department reach out to theirs, and to the FBI, and that would have solved both your takedown problems and created a huge legal headache for your competitor. And by "headache" I mean time spent in prison. Paypal has long had the ability to whitelist websites that are subject to this kind of harassment. If you choose not to avail yourself of these options, it…

maybe i missed it but after searching i see this mentioned nowhere public. just ips to whitelist for firewalls and junk like that. so like i get they could contact support again and ask about avenues but not knowing about this seems unfair?

You, you wouldn't know about the whitelist, it's internal and I only know about it due to a previous client having had your issue.

But going through legal channels and contacting the FBI are both things you should have known about, if you were involved on the business or remedial side of this issue since that's standard operating procedure.

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#238

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I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

> I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. They aren't investing because its a CLI tool. Its not really a threat. If it was, like, a "1 click download free music from Youtube!" app that was trending like crazy, Google would focus more on fighting it. The project is balanced between…

Other programs can use CLI tools so the poor users don't have to be confronted with the horror that is a terminal emulator.

For example, mpv uses youtube-dl automatically if you give it a URL (or yt-dlp since it installs the same binary).

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#239

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I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

I don't think that's necessarily true. People said that about Blu-ray for ages, and for a while they were right but in the end the industry had people paid to keep updating keys and fixing bugs forever, and the open source world only has volunteers. Last I checked (which was a very long time ago) the only way to rip a Blu-ray was through a commercial program. That's probably partly because Blu-ray waned in popularity…

> People said that about Blu-ray for ages, and for a while they were right but in the end the industry had people paid to keep updating keys and fixing bugs forever, and the open source world only has volunteers.

I can rip Blu-Rays easily with freely available tools [0] - even shiny new UHD ones. Doesn't seem the industry won that one.

Pirates don't distribute the leaked device keys anymore so you need to get disc-specific encryption keys derived from that but that's all done automatically for you and I imagine is only because this is currently the path of least resistence - if this was not an option then device keys would leak faster than they can be removed from new releases.

> Still I definitely think it's wrong to assume that Google couldn't win this battle.

DRM is an inherently unwinnable battle. Won't stop anyone from trying and making things worse for regular users in the process though.

[0] https://www.makemkv.com/

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#240

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I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

We did that at AOL with regards to fighting spam, when I was the Sr. Internet Mail Adminstrator in the mid-90s. We would put in weeks and months of work to come up with a new method of fighting spam that would actually work [0], and over the span of a weekend after launch, the spammers would already have worked around it. [0] As opposed to the random crackpot ideas that every damn stupid AOL VP came up with that star…

> [0] As opposed to the random crackpot ideas that every damn stupid AOL VP came up with that started with "Why don't you just ...".

I hope you used https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt as your resignation letter.

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