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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by bmer »

justrealist wrote: post #175
joshuaissac wrote: post #169

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> Can you name off the top of your head the last 3 significant privatizations? In the UK, privatisation of Network Rail arches (which will 'break even' for the buyers in about ten years), privatisation or TfL land in London at below-market prices to property developers, and the backdoor privatisation of NHS services through public-private partnerships.

- 2019 - 2010s? Hard to tell what you are referencing - Not a real example (subcontracting is not the same as selling off state properties). So yes, 2-3 examples from the UK over the past 2 decades is not really compelling.

So, why then did you ask for:

> Can you name off the top of your head the last 3 significant privatizations?

I can list similar privatizations in Canada. Here's an article that discusses various issues around it in the Canadian context: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S02648...

Even further back: during Prime Minister Mulroney's tenure (which coincided with Reagan's and Thatcher's), quite a few public corporations were privatized. Here's a news article from that time period that gives an idea of the pressures faced in Canada at the time, and how what Thatcher was doing in the UK (producing a long list of public corporations and services to privatize) was affecting Canadian judgements: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1985/08/30/d...

And here's an analysis of how the privatization of Canada's medical isotopes business didn't save the government money, and instead only helped to cushion private owners from risk: https://www.utpjournals.press/doi/abs/10.3138/chr.2019-0010

We also have a prominent think-tank that is constantly pushing for further privatization: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/time-privatize-gover...

Just some more evidence, from different time spans, in case you are serious.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

veave wrote: post #101
Barrin92 wrote: post #91

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>but I've never suspected them to be randomly hiding or suppressing search results the word 'random' must be doing a lot of work in that sentence given that they are subject to Roskomnadzor's regulations and are thus forced not just arbitrarily but systematically censor content: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/02/01/a-window-into-yandex...

But us westerners usually don't care much about that kind of censorship because it doesn't affect the searches we normally do. ("normally" as in "we usually don't search stuff about russian politics")

How about if you do searches about history? In Russia, it is explicitly a crime to portray the "Great patriotic War" as anything but noble, wonderful, and a huge russian success story. Multiple game developers have active warrants for arrest in russia because they put a russian tank in their game that isn't OP, or have a campaign that accurately demonstrates an unsavory thing the soviets did in the 40s.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

reducesuffering wrote: post #172
tri5635hhfgvv5r wrote: post #155

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Actually they are very credible; pretty much objective facts. Putin’s inner circle spokesman, Dmitri Peskov, had his daughter Elizaveta as an assistant to the far-right Aymeric Chauprade, a French Member of the European Parliament.[0] You will see “coincidentally” similar connections across major western powers like the UK, US, Germany, and Italy. [0] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/25/daughter-putin-s...

And much more direct evidence, like the time powerful US politicians spent OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY IN MOSCOW.

Putin likes to make a show of things.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

andreygrehov wrote: post #208
SR2Z wrote: post #200

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Well, I can tell you for certain that they can't make Russia declare war on its neighbor and commit atrocities against civilians. As long as that's happening, the US can demonize Russia free and clear.

According to François Hollande (who served as President of France from 2012 to 2017), the West has been pumping Ukraine with weapons since 2014. From my point of view, this is a provocation. If it's not for you, please explain why.

Gee, I wonder what happened in 2014 where Ukraine suddenly needed weapons and couldn't get it from the usual sources as a former Soviet state?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #211
andreygrehov wrote: post #183

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> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

Dictators like Putin don't rule by normal logic. In this case it's imperialism: - Donbas: rich on natural resources - Crimea: large amount of gas was found in 2008. Project by shell was ready in late 2013. They invaded in 2014.

You're forgetting literally the most important parts: Putin wants to be remembered as a unifier of Russia.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

talldatethrow wrote: post #226
oneshtein wrote: post #220

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If a killer will break-in a house and kill someone, it's not about doors or walls.

This wasn't a killer that broke in and killed someone. This was more like going to an old friend and asking for something you left there years ago.

Oh god no. Ukraine DOES NOT WANT TO BE RUSSIA. They got that experience, it sucked awfully.

This is like an emancipated child being abducted.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

avgcorrection wrote: post #182
boeingUH60 wrote: post #20

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"Oligarchs" refer to underground Russian businessmen that cheaply bought up state assets after the USSR collapsed and sold it for exceedingly higher sums later. It's a blasphemy to capitalism to conflate those bandits with Western entrepreneurs that founded and built their own companies from scratch, even though they have their own set of issues.

Can someone explain this to me? America won the Cold War and had an influence on Russia's (the successor state) transition to a market-based economy. Then how can “we“ at the same time be mad about how the transition was handled?

Excuse me? America did not get to define Russia's development, what the heck?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by mrguyorama »

sgt wrote: post #30
kkfdkerpoe wrote: post #3

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Yes, lots of giants for a country with GDP lower than that of Italy. Perhaps they refer to the bellies of the oligarchy that owns the companies.

I think the frequent comparisons of GDP leads the West to heavily underestimate Russia. While GDP may be lower than Italy and per capita is weak, a nation like Russia can probably accomplish an order of magnitude more large scale projects, and also sustain a certain economy climate for much much longer than we think. So don't underestimate Russia, even though we'd like to think they're soon running out of steam to co…

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by com »

throw-ru-938 wrote: post #144
slashdev wrote: post #141

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For example?

There's probably no hard proof, but Russia is allegedly funding far-right movements like AfD and whatever Le Pen's party in France is now called. Also, see the career of Gerhard Schroeder, first German chancellor and then a top Gazprom official.

The FN or whatever it’s called loan from a little-known Russian bank sound pretty wild:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-rus...

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