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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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I think you miss he point. The usefulness of a per-user block list is not fighting outright spam. The statistical filters, etc, as applied by the search engine, work best here, as you correctly state. The point is to remove certain well-known sites with information about well-known topics, which is unhelpful for the particular user , me. That information is technically not spam, but it's on a wrong level, badly prese…

> That information is technically not spam, but it's on a wrong level, badly presented, etc. I'd count that kind of low quality site as spam, and the problem is that there's a basically an infinite supply of them. The boost feature is more interesting in that the curation is at least not a never-ending task. New high quality sites that I know about don't pop up all that often! It's still not an entirely robust featur…

> you'll need to do a lot of quality work to prevent mediocre results from a boosted site from shadowing better results from unboosted sites

That strikes me as a non-goal. As the search engine, you can't know what attributes a user is valuing when they boost, and so you can't know when it's appropriate to override that boost. "Better" is subjective, contextual, and comes in thousands of different flavors.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Similar alternative for Google Search: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/search-filter/eidh... Even the defaults match this Kagi top list.

This third party browser extension looks like it hides UI contents whereas with Kagi your preferences are used in what is actually returned from the search engine and in what order. I don't think these things are all that similar.

Kagi used Google behind. If results are the same, what is the difference for the end user?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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It's a paid service and all their competitors are 'free'. Enshittification doesn't fit their business model, they'd go under in a heartbeat.

Cable TV didn't use to have ads, until somebody figured out you could charge the customer and have other streams of revenue as well. For Kagi, it's a matter of when, not if. Capitalism guarantees it.

An even sadder example of it: Windows.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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It's a paid service and all their competitors are 'free'. Enshittification doesn't fit their business model, they'd go under in a heartbeat.

Cable TV didn't use to have ads, until somebody figured out you could charge the customer and have other streams of revenue as well. For Kagi, it's a matter of when, not if. Capitalism guarantees it.

No, it does not. They are free to create adjacent products to boost revenue as long as they want without debasing existing ones.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Followed the Firefox link on DeArrow, and it leads to an "Oops! We can't find that page".

Worked for me: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sponsorblock/

That is the listing for SponsorBlock, not DeArrow.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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This feature is Kagi's single best innovation in search. It's what makes their results so much better than Google's: where Google's results are usually drowning in garbage websites, Kagi comes built-in with a great set of spam filters, and on top of that you can adapt your own personal list of good and bad domains as you go!

Didn't Google have this feature like two decades ago (blocks, at least)? It's not quite a search innovation, more like a "caring about your users as a business strategy" innovation.

Use this: " uBlacklist is a Google Search filter for Chrome, Firefox and Safari. "

https://iorate.github.io/ublacklist/docs

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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I would love to see a history and expose of Pinterest.

Doxing isn't doxing if it's part of a documentary.

Not sure what you are implying but doxing has a specific meaning.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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> it's not like Pinterest is intentionally ignoring a spec or designing a page that misleads search engine crawlers And > The problem is that their pages exploit a flaw in Google's crawler… I apparently misunderstood your phrasing of “exploit” to mean something intentional. You submit that Pinterest is unintentionally exploiting a flaw in a way that both drives traffic to them and ruins search. I suppose in my shit s…

Apologies - I've edited my original comment to make it clearer that I meant "exploit" in a non-intentional way.

Is there a possibly extant universe wherein Pinterest is acting both intentionally and destructively to the detriment of everyone else?

I’d like to add that Hanlon’s razor is a fun bit of internet lore wherein we pretend humans do not act intentionally that’s based on, uhhh…

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Yeah, this is _the_ reason I started using Kagi. The default results aren’t significantly better than Google/Bing/DDG, but being able to block and boost domains is a killer feature.

I find the default searches already superior for the sole reason that they're not sold to the highest bidder.

Indeed, the sheer amount of sponsored links on some Google searches is such that you have to scroll a full page down to get to actual results.
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