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Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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From https://www.protocol.com/browser-company > Agrawal decided early on not to try and rebuild the whole browser stack, and based Arc on Chromium like everyone else. Ladybird this ain't. More like YACI (yet another chromium implementation).

Seriously the fact the "I made a chrome wrapper" is apparently worth millions in VC funding remains absurd to me.

The value isn't in the browser engine, it's in the implementation and the user experience.

I don't love Arc -- I bounced off it pretty fast -- but it's not insane to think that a VC would see the reuse of the most common browser engine as a good thing, as it means less work on the part of the developers and more of a focus on what sets the browser apart.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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It unfortunately requires an account to use the browser at all. A browser, un no circumstances, should be log-in walled. Seemed like a great user experience as a browser, but unfortunately I uninstalled it as soon as I launched it to a sign in screen.

> A browser, un no circumstances, should be log-in walled. Why? Not that Arc does this, but in today's modern world, we're two device creatures; a smartphone and a laptop. How do you connect the two if not with some sort of login?

What if you do not want to connect the two (e.g. because you do not have two, or just because you want separate files on each)?

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Agreed. I don't use a Mac anymore, but I've been hearing about this browser and how excellent it is, but their website does such an awful job of conveying anything that I'm surprised anyone ever started using it. Actually, to give them some credit, they seem to have redone the site somewhat, and it now actually has screenshots. Last time I visited it barely had a description of the product, so I guess they're headed…

>I've been hearing about this browser and how excellent it is from real people, or probably-paid articles on tech blogs?

I‘ve used browsers since they first appeared, pretty much all of them, and I love Arc.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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What's the point with a bunch of information when you can just download it and try for yourself? If you're at the car dealership, don't you want to take a car for a test ride first, before getting into more details?

Because you want to know what it is like before installing it? From what I gather so far this is not an executable I trust and feel comfortable running on my personal computer.

Why? Are you paranoid? Are you a spy on a secret assignment?

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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> Zero telemetry. Q: Is Orion open-source? A: We’re working on it!...[0] Q: Is Orion truly safe if it’s not open-source? A: The idea that "open-source = trustworthy" only goes so far...[1] [0] https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#oss [1] https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#ossprivacy

You can use a network capture util and will find that there is no telemetry. There’s an update check but you can disable it. Don’t think it’s much different to use a closed source application than it is to use an open source app that somebody else compiled and put into your systems package repository. Orion and Kagi (subscription search engine) are both great products, been using them for over a year, though I main F…

>Don’t think it’s much different to use a closed source application than it is to use an open source app that somebody else compiled and put into your systems package repository.

What about the fact that in the case of the open source application, there are people not directly motivated to not mention problems for the good of the company, with the ability to look at the source code?

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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> Zero telemetry. Q: Is Orion open-source? A: We’re working on it!...[0] Q: Is Orion truly safe if it’s not open-source? A: The idea that "open-source = trustworthy" only goes so far...[1] [0] https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#oss [1] https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#ossprivacy

You can use a network capture util and will find that there is no telemetry. There’s an update check but you can disable it. Don’t think it’s much different to use a closed source application than it is to use an open source app that somebody else compiled and put into your systems package repository. Orion and Kagi (subscription search engine) are both great products, been using them for over a year, though I main F…

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Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Can't wait for Orion to support Linux. As a Kagi subscriber it makes me feel salty, even though i understand focusing initial scope haha.

Try Falkon [0] by KDE. [0] https://www.falkon.org/

It's really hard to see why would anyone use it. At least epiphany is getting a lot of new features.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?

Doesn't that argument apply to tabs also? Eg IE6 days where there were no tabs, and everything was deferred to the OS/desktop window management. It was clunky and painful.

It should. Browser developers started introducing tabs because OS like Microsoft Windows and Mac OS were lagging in term of UX but that doesn't mean this is where it should ideally go. This was just bandaid.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?

Because it works better like this.

On a desktop with a shitty UX. Using the lowest common denominator doesn't help.
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