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The point isn’t to be “right” — whatever you define that as. The point is to be understood. Use blackboard bold when it’s what people are most familiar with and will engender the least confusion. You call this the “tabs vs spaces” debate, but I’ve literally never heard anyone advocate your position until you did, just now.

> I’ve literally never heard anyone advocate your position until you did, just now Many mathematicians concerned by typography use real boldface. For example: Terence Tao's blog, Donald Knuth, Paul Halmos (author of "how to write mathematics"), and the famous journal "Publications Mathématiques de l'IHÉS" which is the undisputed gold standard in mathematical typography. They use real boldface for the number sets N, Z…

People use both, for reasons of tradition, ergonomics, practicality, available toolset. Boldface is obviously common in places where BB is unavailable, more restrictive, more difficult. Web publishing is a great example.

BB is common, in my experience, in hand-written text where bold isn't really an option. It is, to my tradition, the most common and recognizable way to indicate the most common field sets and also generally is a good stand-in for any "large category" of interest.

Bold is used intermittently in my experience, probably due to its inability to be hand-written. To me, it tends to mean "vector" or "matrix" much more than set. In hand-written forms, I sometimes see "arrow hats" instead, especially for vectors.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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This is for math. In Latex, you get these symbols with \mathbb{}. They are most commonly used to represent to represent number sets, like the set of all integers Z (from the German), set of all natural numbers N, set of complex numbers C, set of all real numbers R, rationals Q (for “quotient”), set of quaternions H (named after Hamilton), or an unknown set F (for “field”). This explains why many of the letters in thi…

They are an accessibility nightmare. I read a comment here recently from a blind person that had to give up on math education entirely due to all of the symbols not being supported by screen readers. It was pretty sad.

That's on screen readers developers. And I don't know when that comment you seem to remember dates back to, but I have had several blind students in my math lectures over the past decade. They seemed did fine.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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This is for math. In Latex, you get these symbols with \mathbb{}. They are most commonly used to represent to represent number sets, like the set of all integers Z (from the German), set of all natural numbers N, set of complex numbers C, set of all real numbers R, rationals Q (for “quotient”), set of quaternions H (named after Hamilton), or an unknown set F (for “field”). This explains why many of the letters in thi…

> This is for math. Heh. The "tabs vs spaces" debate of mathematical typography is whether these symbols should be used at all in printing, or reserved for actual blackboards. In LaTeX you can have actual boldface letters, so you should write a boldface letter R to represent the real numbers and so on. Using "blackboard bold" in print looks terribly off to some (many?) people.

Do you have a source for this? I have never come across this debate and personally find the blackboard bold convention to be useful, as well as very visually elegant.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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post #96

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Is this like when that Roman emperor named his horse as a senator, or are we not quite there yet?

The most sane interpretation is that Elon Musk was payed to dilute or destroy Twitter. I can't think of anything else that would make sense. Throwing 44 billion dollars on a company and then gutting it for everything that was valuable including a unique brand that had even its own verb? But the sad reality is probably that a 12 years old narcissist edgelord in the body of a billionaire wanted a vanity plate.

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Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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post #159

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> Few would argue that it works better now than before Maybe in the social circles you stick to, but there are plenty of /other/ people (i.e. more than a "few") that are quite happy that the 80% of employees doing their jobs were let go. [1] https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

Is Matt Taibbi implied to be one of those happy people? 'Matt Taibbi, a journalist who worked on the “Twitter Files” series of articles about old business decisions at Twitter, has said he’ll no longer use the social media platform. Taibbi is apparently frustrated by Twitter’s recent decision to heavily restrict all links and tweets about Substack following that company’s announcement it would be launching Substack N…

> Is Matt Taibbi implied to be one of those happy people?

Not specifically. That's why I linked to content from him, and not his profile page.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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Musk can seem to do no right atm, I see a lot of hate out there with this name change and planned product expansion but I can’t quite understand why. He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. It might prove fatal, but it would have died a slow boring death in its old form. Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, which shouldn’t come into it. Fwiw even prior to his defu…

> He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. Few would argue that it works better now than before > Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, I suppose it's more complicated: - he promised "freedom of speech" and Twitter has rather become "freedom of hate" - he is taking constantly controversial political positions, usually favoring dictators, and this doesn't resonate ve…

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Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

#237

Musk can seem to do no right atm, I see a lot of hate out there with this name change and planned product expansion but I can’t quite understand why. He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. It might prove fatal, but it would have died a slow boring death in its old form. Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, which shouldn’t come into it. Fwiw even prior to his defu…

> He’s taking an underperforming social network and trying to make it work. Few would argue that it works better now than before > Perhaps its just that people don’t like his personality, I suppose it's more complicated: - he promised "freedom of speech" and Twitter has rather become "freedom of hate" - he is taking constantly controversial political positions, usually favoring dictators, and this doesn't resonate ve…

It is better for favoring free speech over censorship. Dictators don't favor free speech whatsoever. You've been gaslight into believing the opposite. Tyrants censor people with any justification they can get their hands on, including "hate speech".

We accept speech we don't like to avoid this very trap.

Re: Unicode Character “𝕏” (U+1D54F)

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post #125
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so musk was trolled?

No, Musk is the one doing the trolling. Just look at the attention he is getting. If you think Musk is somehow upset about this, you are wrong.

Right, it may look like he's making dumb decisions left and right and doesn't have anyone telling him how stupid he is to get him to stop, but he's really playing 4d chess.

/s

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> X is the future state of unlimited interactivity – centered in audio, video, messaging, payments/banking – creating a global marketplace for ideas, goods, services, and opportunities. Powered by AI, X will connect us all in ways we’re just beginning to imagine.

Audio, Video, Messaging, Payments and AI, all in a single product pitch.

I guess then "X" is an appropriate brand for something that even the owner doesn't know WTF is about.

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#240

> X is the future state of unlimited interactivity – centered in audio, video, messaging, payments/banking – creating a global marketplace for ideas, goods, services, and opportunities. Powered by AI, X will connect us all in ways we’re just beginning to imagine. Audio, Video, Messaging, Payments and AI, all in a single product pitch. I guess then "X" is an appropriate brand for something that even the owner doesn't…

In other words, X is the new blockchain.
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