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Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by karaterobot »

RajT88 wrote: post #125
post-it wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else Because it doesn't move. When you press down on an Apple touchpad, it doesn't displace at all, it vibrates . This gives you an identical touch response across the entire trackpad, plus nifty things like Force Touch and customizable response intensity. Nobody else has done it, and it makes every other touchpad feel awful.

I'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?

> because what else can you really fit into a laptop?

The nipple! I have no idea what IBM actually called it, but that's what it was. I would take it 10 times out of 10 over a touchpad (which I appreciate but cannot use properly)

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by mrob »

pmontra wrote: post #209
fredoliveira wrote: post #175

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Hopefully you don't mean original doom, because if you do, boy do I have a surprise for you ;-)

Wasn't that keyboard only?

Mouse was always the best way to play. Doom comes with demo files that are obviously recorded using mouse, and the manual clearly recommends using it. It also supports keyboard only play, but this is in no way the "intended" method.

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by karaterobot »

blauditore wrote: post #133

>excellent build quality I keep hearing this, also for phones, and people usually associate it with certain materials. Why? I'd rather have a light plastic laptop/phone that works well, is light, and survives a few hits than an overpriced piece of fashion. Bonus points for phones with cracked backs because glass "feels more valuable". Of course I understand the value of e.g. good hinges, keyboards etc., but pretty su…

It looks to me like you're thinking of "build quality" as mostly esthetic rather than functional. I think when most people describe build quality, they are talking about good hinges, keyboards, and the ability to survive a few hits.

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by mrob »

braymundo wrote: post #232
miffe wrote: post #204

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I'm curious what the surprise is? Is og doom actually playable with a trackpad?

Keyboard only.

False. The installer lets you choose between keyboard only, keyboard + mouse, and keyboard + joystick.

According to John Romero, keyboard + mouse was intended:

https://twitter.com/romero/status/473587688977596416

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by treprinum »

dsego wrote: post #221
treprinum wrote: post #122

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Dunno, my Zenbook S UX393 has a glass touchpad as well (with some mini display underneath) and feels like the one on my MacBook but I can set up three buttons at the bottom, not just one. Moreover, it has 3300x2200 screen with slim bezels and without any insane notch and it can run Linux smoothly without waiting for GPU drivers to be usable.

That's ok, but why limit triggers to button areas when 1-finger click anywhere on the trackpad can be left-click and 2-finger click anywhere can be right-click. Macs also have force touch for additional actions. There is probably a 3-finger click option as well. I don't have to know where the buttons are or look for them, no eyes need to be on the touchpad or keyboard, it's just an extension of my fingers.

It's not limiting, it can be set up that way as well. But you have an extra option to set up 3 button behavior as well which is missing on MacBooks.

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by dsego »

RajT88 wrote: post #125
post-it wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> can’t put my finger on why this is so much better than everyone else Because it doesn't move. When you press down on an Apple touchpad, it doesn't displace at all, it vibrates . This gives you an identical touch response across the entire trackpad, plus nifty things like Force Touch and customizable response intensity. Nobody else has done it, and it makes every other touchpad feel awful.

I'm just surprised that people feel so passionately about touchpads/trackpads. Apple can have the best one, sure, I believe it. But they still are bad pointing devices as a type of pointing device. People have gotten used to them, because what else can you really fit into a laptop?

They sell a desktop version and there are people that use it instead of a mouse. It supports complex gestures and probably causes less stress on your wrist than a mouse. I'd say it's on par.

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by fragmede »

karaterobot wrote: post #234
blauditore wrote: post #133

>excellent build quality I keep hearing this, also for phones, and people usually associate it with certain materials. Why? I'd rather have a light plastic laptop/phone that works well, is light, and survives a few hits than an overpriced piece of fashion. Bonus points for phones with cracked backs because glass "feels more valuable". Of course I understand the value of e.g. good hinges, keyboards etc., but pretty su…

It looks to me like you're thinking of "build quality" as mostly esthetic rather than functional. I think when most people describe build quality, they are talking about good hinges, keyboards, and the ability to survive a few hits.

Yes, good hinges are probably the second most important thing when looking at build quality, second only to the keyboard. Do I have to gingerly baby the laptop when I pick it up to move it in order for it to last me 5-10 years, or can I man-handle the thing, and just pick it up by the screen, and still have a laptop that can open and stay open at a specific angle, and that will still close all the way without creaking and threatening to break 5-10 years down the line.

Re: The Perfect Laptop

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Post by dsego »

treprinum wrote: post #237
dsego wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's ok, but why limit triggers to button areas when 1-finger click anywhere on the trackpad can be left-click and 2-finger click anywhere can be right-click. Macs also have force touch for additional actions. There is probably a 3-finger click option as well. I don't have to know where the buttons are or look for them, no eyes need to be on the touchpad or keyboard, it's just an extension of my fingers.

It's not limiting, it can be set up that way as well. But you have an extra option to set up 3 button behavior as well which is missing on MacBooks.

Not sure why though, feels like a gimmick to be honest. Why have buttons which aren't tactile so you have to look for them visually?
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