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32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by callalex »

veegee wrote: post #211
jayvoordemensen wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! It's Jay, I'm a journalist and developer and I've done most of the work on the front and backend of Project E Ink. Happy to answer your questions! So what we've done: we're indeed running our own Visionect servers these devices connect to. We've build a friendly and news-centered frontend so the display shows news, updates on new editions (or a user-set timeframe), or forgets about newspapers altogether and disp…

If Docker is in any way _required_, it's still a dealbreaker.

Docker is never required by anything, it just makes communicating software dependencies simple and concise.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by fmajid »

eli wrote: post #226
gcanyon wrote: post #222

Are (large) e-ink displays expensive because of lack of scale in manufacturing? Or is there something inherently expensive about them? This display is literally almost ten times the cost of a generic 4K monitor, which has color, a higher resolution, and a 60 hertz refresh rate. The only advantage here is the reflective display and the ultra-low power consumption. I'm not saying that there aren't use cases where those…

I chatted with the guy from Visionect about this once and he said that it was basically all about scale. There is massive demand for the panels that go in those generic LED monitors and many huge factories dedicated to making them. The eink display looks gorgeous, by the way. But it's not a computer monitor and doesn't claim to be.

You'd think there would be a large market for signage, and the process for manufacturing electrophoretic e-ink screens isn't that different from web printing (rotary presses), which is both mature and scalable (in size).

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by deltarholamda »

alexandernl wrote: post #2

I'm a news junkie, and the power and allure of a newspaper's front page have always fascinated me. When I stumbled upon an article written by a Google engineer who had built an e ink device with the front page of his favorite daily newspaper prominently displayed on his wall, I was a bit jealous. So, I worked with a e-ink company called Visionect in Slovenia to build a version that comes shipped ready to put on your…

It's kind of sad that the newspaper format--which gradually developed over many many years due to how a human interfaces with the medium--is now so... quaint?... that it has entered the realm of "art."

All that inverse-pyramid, "Five Ws and an H," Journalism 101 stuff developed in part because of how newspapers were designed, typeset and printed. Now it's kind of like a Thomas Kincaid print?

I feel really old now.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by ar_lan »

hau wrote: post #78

This screen comes with a subscription based cloud CMS. The only way to pass image to this display semms to be through a proprietary application which is this so called CMS. There are no other connectivity options mentioned. You are unable to use this screen if: - subscription is not paid - company decides to terminate your subscription under any condition of your contract - company decides to sunset software or a pro…

Hey, isn't this the Peloton model?

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by oh_sigh »

swores wrote: post #42
TulliusCicero wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you couldn't.

Depends on the person but it doesn't seem completely impossible - ignoring inflation, $250/yr for If they can manage it in 3min rather than 5, it's up to $13.70/hr. Where I am (UK) I think most newspaper delivery people are aged 13-18, and while there's far less of them about than when I was a kid, I wouldn't be surprised if >50% would be willing to do it to earn an extra $4.80/week. Of course, you also need to trust…

Very few people are going to add a 5 minute stop to their day to make an extra $8 every fortnight.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by GenericDev »

I would love to buy this so I can put up classic newspapers and read them. Such a cool idea.

A bit of a side tangent, but I have been trying to locate newspaper archives, and I just can't find them anywhere for download outside of newspapers.com, and even then they rate limit the hell out you. There is not effective way to bulk download these artifacts so I can peruse offline, which is typical :(

Does anyone know where to find bulk old newspaper downloads?

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by GenericDev »

ildon wrote: post #227

I love the concept and I'd be willing to pay for the high price no questions asked if the device included all the backend needed to display images. Given the high price I'd expect this to be self sufficient. I truly hope a soon to come interaction of the product will include such a feature, so that setting the target URL by connecting to the device (via localhost or similar) will make this work. My best scenario woul…

Same. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of ownership with the device.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by XFrequentist »

This display with regularly-rotating high-quality pencil art could be a neat business. The comparison to wall art makes the hardware price look more reasonable, and you could offer a subscription to curated pieces or a network of artists' output.

Re: 32“ E Ink screen that displays daily newspapers on your wall (2021)

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Post by TheRealPomax »

jayvoordemensen wrote: post #155
hau wrote: post #78

This screen comes with a subscription based cloud CMS. The only way to pass image to this display semms to be through a proprietary application which is this so called CMS. There are no other connectivity options mentioned. You are unable to use this screen if: - subscription is not paid - company decides to terminate your subscription under any condition of your contract - company decides to sunset software or a pro…

Hey! It's Jay, I'm a journalist and developer and I've done most of the work on the front and backend of Project E Ink. Happy to answer your questions! So what we've done: we're indeed running our own Visionect servers these devices connect to. We've build a friendly and news-centered frontend so the display shows news, updates on new editions (or a user-set timeframe), or forgets about newspapers altogether and disp…

> connect to any other Visionect server in the world

Okay but what if, like a sane person, I don't want to give it direct internet access and have my own data I want to put on the wall? Can I pay less to get less (e.g. just the screen with an HDMI or DP connector so I can connect it to literally any raspi, picture frame, nuc, etc. etc. in my house)?

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