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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by goykasi »

busymom0 wrote: post #209
guraf wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apollo had just over ONE million users. Only 540k of whom were active. And significantly less that paid the fee needed to be able to post. And most active according to whom? People keep saying Reddit is committing suicide. Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile? In Apollo? The app that forced you to pay if you wanted to submit content to Reddit? Get real.

I suspect that those who bothered to go through the effort of downloading a third party app were also power users who most likely also contributed a lot more content than other users. How many content creators did Reddit lose by killing these third party apps? Reddit doesn’t produce content of their own. If content creators and moderators took away their effort, Reddit would die.

> How many content creators did Reddit lose by killing these third party apps?

Thats a good question. Are there any stats to show that Apollo users were significant in terms of content creation? Or that any small subset of users are significant (besides mods)?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by Messiadbunny »

basch wrote: post #192
dcormier wrote: post #165

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They didn’t even have to reverse course for this to work out. Just give a reasonable runway before beginning to charge for the API (to give third party clients enough time to adjust their subscription customers who may have just paid for a year), and charge a reasonable price. Two months before starting to charge $0.24 per 1,000 requests is nothing but unreasonable. I wish Reddit had just plainly said, “We don’t want…

Why are the apps being charged for api access and not the people using them?

I can't think of any software that the end-user pays API fees or even supplies their own API key/token. I've only ever needed to supply that when interacting with APIs directly in a developer setting. That, or open-source projects that require API access from some 3rd party.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by CSMastermind »

I started reading the Wheel of Time books this year and I discovered their surprisingly active subreddit where they have an active read-along including spoiler free first time reader threads.

I listen to the No Dumb Questions podcast and the official episode discussion threads are on Reddit. As are the official discussion threads for the Nebula original Jet Lag episodes. As are the best unofficial discussion threads for newly aired TV show episodes.

When new Age of Empires or Planet Zoo patches/expansions drop the only place to find thoughtful discussion is the subreddits for the games. The actual game developers hang out there as well. The subreddit wiki for Cities Skylines is the best guide to mods available on the internet. If you need to talk Civ strategy or want to follow the latest Smash Bros tournament then Reddit is the best place to go.

Similar to when new music drops from a major artist - the best interactive discussion happens on Reddit.

I haven't found anywhere that's as good as /r/NFL for game threads during the season.

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I've long given up looking at Reddit for any meaningful discussion.

Every major sub is infected with noxious politics. Technology/programming subreddits are flooded with confidently stated but mostly uninformed opinions. Trying to post something helpful feels like swimming against the tide.

But I still go to Reddit for discussion about media be it books, podcasts, video games, music, sports, or others.

I really hope someone migrates those communities somewhere else so I can finally ignore the site.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by jbigelow76 »

I'm pouring one out for Apollo tonight, I tried the official Reddit app and it's hot garbage and the Reddit website is somehow worse.

Mastodon and Lemmy are fine, but I'm old enough to remember the web I grew up with and that what I would really like to see is a Renaissance of niche bulletin boards and RSS based blogs. I'm not holding my breath though.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by ozr »

dehrmann wrote: post #136
dom96 wrote: post #50

I am still somewhat shocked that they went through with this. I built a Reddit API[1] alternative as a form of protest, they responded by blocking my personal Reddit account. Very sad what Reddit has become. 1 - https://api.reddiw.com

It's a completely different approach, but maybe you can do web view shenanigans to create an API bridge on devices.

Why work around it? If they want to kill their service, I'd rather watch it happen with a smile than desperately try to save them.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by publicmail »

lucb1e wrote: post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

Hey, could I get an invite?

Please excuse the new account. I just made it because I didn’t want to put my email address in the bio of my regular account.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by gardnr »

georgemcbay wrote: post #214
basch wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are the apps being charged for api access and not the people using them?

Reddit never intended for anyone to pay for API access, that's why the costs were so high. The intent all along was to kill all third party apps through unreasonable pricing of API access so they could funnel users to the official app and inundate them with extremely intrusive ads. If they had presented the ridiculously high cost of API access to users it would have been more overtly user hostile. By targeting the ap…

The premium account holders don't see ads in reddit. All Reddit had to do was require premium accounts for users that wanted to use 3rd party apps. If you want to keep using yoru 3rd party app, then sign up and pay or shut up and go home.

It would have been a much more logical change for everyone involved.

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