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I would be immensely surprised if they ended up actually costing $127 in practice. I expect that's very much a best case scenario (lowest bidder estimate for unregulated side guards with no installation costs).
And your support for this assertion is...?
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I would be immensely surprised if they ended up actually costing $127 in practice. I expect that's very much a best case scenario (lowest bidder estimate for unregulated side guards with no installation costs).
And even if it were double? Or triple? Still seems negligible given the impact and even the margin of profit per load .
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> I watched this last night, and it's always interesting to people in business talk about the cost of saving lives. My favorite example of this is the "children under 2 don't need their own airline seat". The idea was that if you required a separate seat, more people would drive. That in turn would lead to more fatalities as the fatality/mile in cars is so much higher than in planes. I would also point out that if so…
I have a term decreasing life insurance policy, which means that the amount my estate gets will drop to zero by the end of the policy. It's not the value of my life that it's covering but the value of my mortgage.
Will check it out.
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Do you want to be right or alive? Pick one
Ahh, the old wisdom used to tell the oppressed to shut up and stay docile.. As a cyclist I hear this all the time. A thinly veiled threat, if you ask me. "Stop pointing out things that could've been better with our infrastructure or traffic culture, or I'll run you over".
Europe has mandatory underride guards for this reason since 20+ years ago.
Maybe it was just my perception, but I remember driving in Germany (long time ago) and noting how trucks seemed to be driving at a reasonable speed over in the right lane.
Very different from highways in the US where trucks typically drive as if they were just another sedan on the road.
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And certainly we can have all the same arguments about the cost of a human life vs. corporate greed, etc. etc. at a more realistic price.
But what this really speaks to is the level of honesty and accuracy of this article. It's a hit piece and is extremely one-sided propaganda, regardless of what anyone thinks is the right thing to do about better bumpers.
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Did you read the whole article? There’s a second accident cited where the truck changed lanes suddenly and trapped the car next to them under the trailer and dragged it for quite distance. Then the car caught fire and the driver was burned to death. Sounds like it’s pretty easy to underride if the truck changes lanes or swerved into you. Not a victim that I would blame. What about the accident where the truck blew th…
> Did you read the whole article? I did. You are cherry picking the accidents where it's quite clear the victim did nothing wrong. There are other accidents described where I find it hard to draw that conclusion. There are only about 4-5 accidents described out of about 400 in 2021 (an undercount per the article). Have you been on the road? It's very dangerous due to most drivers around you being absolutely awful and…
> I think you are misreading my comment as victim blaming and reacting to that. That's not what I said.
Here's what you said: "This article is intentionally written to sidestep the victim driver's own responsibility. It's hard to underride into a truck if you're driving attentively."
You are directly placing responsibility on the victim for the circumstances that led them to be a victim. The examples given show that the victim driver either had right of way or no control of the circumstances. I don't see how that could possibly NOT be victim blaming.
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And even if it were double? Or triple? Still seems negligible given the impact and even the margin of profit per load .
It's only worth doing if it actually saves enough lives per $ to be better than the other things we could do with that money. For context, NICE currently only pays for treatments that give over 1 QALY per £30k because that's all the NHS budget can support. If those bars cost $500 and needed to be installed on five million trucks and only saved 20 lives on average across the country then that would be an extremely poo…
As a European I see this kind of accident as a non issue because we use roundabouts. It is only important in the back of the truck. The main bug is using so many square corners road junctions in the US. Those are super dangerous.