I think re-posting one of my past comments might be appropriate:
"All Captcha's could in the USA be illegal aswell under the ADA.... As some people with learning disabilities won't be able to complete them."
HBO Max new Captcha system
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#232This is Arkose MatchKey. Hopefully, they will one day fix the UI covering the images. https://www.arkoselabs.com/arkose-matchkey/
I just tried some of these and their normal thread level challenges are actually quite nice on their page. The hard ones chosen by HBO are just crazy though.
That fake bee one was really something else.
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#233Cruel And Prejudiced Test Completely Harming Accessibility Imagine a non-native-english speaking visually impaired grandma trying to register to a random web service. CAPTCHAs are not a problem, people say, there are the audio versions, so go for it! Oh, you were never able to pick a language? Too bad you dont speak english. Oh, your hearing is not the best? You are clearly not a human, official stamp from SV. Why? O…
Oh, you've managed to find the section for the visually impaired? Surveillance Capitalism Ltd. is happy to get to know you.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…
> Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? > We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human.' I'm extremely hesitant to give any State the ability to track an individual user's online activity that intensely. It's been extensively docum…
I posted about mCaptcha yesterday, and a major discussion followed:
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#235Not saying these are good, but it's been ~10 years and I still have no idea what I'm supposed to click when Google says "click the traffic lights." Just the light sections? What about the edge that takes up 10% of the adjoining box? What about the back or side of a different traffic light? I've tried them all, and my success rate doesn't noticeably change.
it gets worse when you factor in translation problems.
lets take google/recaptcha/hcaptcha image captchas. english: "click on the images with bikes" this could mean motorbikes or bicycles in english.
in german it says "klicken sie die bilder mit den fahrrädern". fahrrad meaning bicycle exklusively! a motorbike would be "motorrad". then the images will show no bicycles so you skip - wrong - so you click on the motorbikes - wrong - oh there is one image that shows a (german) "motoroller" (a scooter) maybe they mean that? click - correct
this goes on an on and on. they have so many problems with their translations its infurating. i stopped filling them out when not absolutely necessary
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. Probably liscensing and future merger related. “The current plan is to unify the HBO Max service and the Discovery+ service under a single brand” https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/hbo-max-discovery-plus-m...
The entire thing reeks of bad decisions. The new CEO from the Discovery side of the merger cancelled a bunch of HBO Max programming that was doing well, because their background is in cheaper to produce reality content. It seems fated to join the very long list of bad media mergers.
What I do not understand about business is basically everything, but I still don't really understand why they felt the need to remove existing programs.
I can understand canceling Close Enough and Infinity Train because they're too expensive, but I don't really understand what it's hurting for them to just say on the servers and continue to be streamable. Hard drive space is pretty cheap, especially at HBO's scale.
I've heard it's possibly a tax writeoff, but then I've seen conflicting reports claiming that that's not the case, so I have no idea. How much ongoing costs were involved with keeping the animated shows I like online?
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#237I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…
> I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong
I also have a PhD in Computer Science and I assure you that the degree does not give me as much blind faith in my math ability
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#238Not saying these are good, but it's been ~10 years and I still have no idea what I'm supposed to click when Google says "click the traffic lights." Just the light sections? What about the edge that takes up 10% of the adjoining box? What about the back or side of a different traffic light? I've tried them all, and my success rate doesn't noticeably change.
The worst part about those captchas is that you have to click each box individually. So unless you're on a touch screen or mouse, clicking each box that contains (part of) the object, takes ages. At least let my human hands drag-select the boxes, ffs.
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#239Not saying these are good, but it's been ~10 years and I still have no idea what I'm supposed to click when Google says "click the traffic lights." Just the light sections? What about the edge that takes up 10% of the adjoining box? What about the back or side of a different traffic light? I've tried them all, and my success rate doesn't noticeably change.
Honestly I don't think it matters which boxes you click I think it's based on mouse movements, time delay between clicks, and browser fingerprinting tricks that detect headless browsers
In pretty sure it does matter. Click things that are clearly wrong and it will very rarely accept it.
However I think it is quite flexible. That box that is almost completely traffic light probably needs to be clicked, but as long as you pick at least one of those two that contain a corner you will likely pass. I would guess that there is some sort of accuracy score that is mixed in with the bot fingerprinting score.
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#240Heard about the Arkose sale tactics at Roblox (a site whose usability is also nuked by them) I've been told Arkose pay people to run these captchas and present lots of fancy metrics of attacks they've stopped (when in reality with Captcha's like this a lot of that is normal users) which is why some websites seem to be ok with destroying user experience by running this I'd be surprised if anybody in a technical role d…
This reminds me of the Cloudflare dashboard where they loudly shove "ATTACKS BLOCKED" in your face where they are really counting requests blocked and have no evidence about if it was actually and attack or a poor human that got mistreated.