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The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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They are a discount buyer, so it is generally a bad deal to use them and you basically shouldn't unless you have no other option. It is similar to getting a pay day loan, or selling stuff to pawn shop or keeping a balance on your VISA. You are going to get a bad deal. I don't really know what to do about it. How can you ensure people are educated enough to know that a discount buyer is a buyer who will under pay for…

In response to this article the company promised to stop suing customers to force them to follow through on sale contracts. That sounds like a constructive change.

If you think a promise sounds like change, I don't know what to tell you. These behaviors were already "against company policy"

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In France (civil law, different from US common law) a notary is a qualified lawyer whose role when selling the house is to ensure that all the legal aspects are handled correctly (including things as making sure that the technical reviews of the house have been done, that there are specific documents from the city etc.), and to make sure that the people who sign the documents are the ones that are allowed to do so.…

In France it is a hard requirement. Also you cannot pay directly, the money goes through the notary (and a special account handled by the government). This is actually a two-step process. You sign a first contract that entirely engages both parties - the only exception is if the buyer cannot get a credit. They have a month (or something like that) to secure it. Then once the funds are there the final contract is sign…

US has similar system called escrow that title companies (a third party) manages.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #196

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A notary in France must mean something completely different from a notary in the United States. In the US a notary simply is verifying the identity, and swearing they have done so, of the people signing the document. It's entirely possible and happens all the time that a fraudulent document is notarized.

In France (civil law, different from US common law) a notary is a qualified lawyer whose role when selling the house is to ensure that all the legal aspects are handled correctly (including things as making sure that the technical reviews of the house have been done, that there are specific documents from the city etc.), and to make sure that the people who sign the documents are the ones that are allowed to do so. T…

They pay dearly for this though -- 7.5% of the price of the house goes to the notary/state. In the US it can be as high, but it's usually not, since most fees are fixed amounts.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In France (civil law, different from US common law) a notary is a qualified lawyer whose role when selling the house is to ensure that all the legal aspects are handled correctly (including things as making sure that the technical reviews of the house have been done, that there are specific documents from the city etc.), and to make sure that the people who sign the documents are the ones that are allowed to do so. T…

They pay dearly for this though -- 7.5% of the price of the house goes to the notary/state. In the US it can be as high, but it's usually not, since most fees are fixed amounts.

It depends if the house is new or old. For a new house this ~2%.

There is a legal possibility to negotiate part of the notary cost (to lower it below the legal maximum) but the chances are thin (they get better for expensive houses).

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In France it is a hard requirement. Also you cannot pay directly, the money goes through the notary (and a special account handled by the government). This is actually a two-step process. You sign a first contract that entirely engages both parties - the only exception is if the buyer cannot get a credit. They have a month (or something like that) to secure it. Then once the funds are there the final contract is sign…

US has similar system called escrow that title companies (a third party) manages.

This is exactly an escrow in France, just that this is compulsory, and has to go though a special notary account (that is managed by the gov't)

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They pay dearly for this though -- 7.5% of the price of the house goes to the notary/state. In the US it can be as high, but it's usually not, since most fees are fixed amounts.

It depends if the house is new or old. For a new house this ~2%. There is a legal possibility to negotiate part of the notary cost (to lower it below the legal maximum) but the chances are thin (they get better for expensive houses).

Oh, this is good to know thanks.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #191

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We are within an 8-10 hour drive from some of the best skiing in the Midwest

Funny, what you see as close enough to make it a good area to live in if you like skiing is enough driving time for me to go from central Denmark to Sweden (including ferry) to ski. To me it would need to be within 30mins to count as a good place to live if you like skiing.

I'm fairly certain they were joking-- 8-10 hours is enough time to leave the Midwest and be in the Rockies.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #90

I bought a local house in 2004 that suffered a failed furnace in deep winter (with great damage) for $17k. I put another $10k into it for repairs, and rented it. I started getting postcards around 2012: "I/we want to buy your house." I have a pile of them. None of them offered more than $20k. The home in question is very near Augustana College in Rock Island, Illinois. I do a two mile walk through campus every day, s…

I can't imagine property being so cheap - that too in the US. Here in India where I reside, you wouldn't be able to get even a 100sq.ft of open land for that price.

I’ve got a friend I went to high school with who couldn’t qualify for a mortgage, so he took out a $15k credit card cash advance and bought a cheap house with some land in a rural area. Will have it paid off within 10 years of working for near-minimum-wage on a farm.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

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post #33

I wish more older Americans understood how these people really work. My parents live in a neighborhood that has gone down hill through the years. They called up a company who did this kind of home buying. Usual visual inspections and the like went on with a quote being issued. They saw the amount was a little over the remaining mortgage which was less than the market value of the house. They decided to ahead of time…

>I wish more older Americans understood how these people really work. I wish more Americans overall understood how real estate works. I see people get screwed all the time because of bad information. Here's an example: several times a year I will talk with a member of the public who will say something like "we want to work with the listing agent because then we won't have to pay as much commission" not understanding…

> I wish more Americans overall understood how real estate works.

There aren’t good resources for learning compared to many other fields. Compare learning about real estate to e.g. learning how Linux works. Even though the latter is far more complicated conceptually, you can go and read man pages and the Arch wiki or whatever and learn it all from whatever level of abstraction you prefer. Learning about real estate from any source feels like the equivalent of trying to learn how Linux works via ChatGPT prompts.

Re: The Ugly Truth Behind “We Buy Ugly Houses”

#240

They are a discount buyer, so it is generally a bad deal to use them and you basically shouldn't unless you have no other option. It is similar to getting a pay day loan, or selling stuff to pawn shop or keeping a balance on your VISA. You are going to get a bad deal. I don't really know what to do about it. How can you ensure people are educated enough to know that a discount buyer is a buyer who will under pay for…

> a bad deal [...] similar to [...] keeping a balance on your VISA Huh? Elaborate?

Interest rates of the average VISA card are insane and most people can get a better loan product if they need the money. VISA makes tons of money for being convenient but insanely expensive.

https://wallethub.com/edu/cc/average-credit-card-interest-ra...

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