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Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
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Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#232I just today removed some disallow directives from robots.txt files and put in noidex metas on the pages instead like Google recommends. It doesn't really have much use nowadays.
As to copyright - yes I agree the Micky Mouse copyright law has been extended far too long and should be about thirty years. On the other hand I think trade marks should not be nowhere so easily liable to be lost even if people do use the term generally. Disney should still be able to make new Micky Mouse cartoons and be defended from others making them.
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#233Excuse me, we prefer the term "android".
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Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#234Wouldn't that make the job of spammers easier? They can create very low quality websites but with very high quality (AI Generated?) ai.txt that fools AI engines into trusting them more than other websites with better content.
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Don't recruit me into some bullshit argument that rewrites history and entrenches Disney's ill-gotten monopoly. You don't think it's them being allowed to buy Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm? Is creativity ruined because I can't make a Mickey Mouse cartoon or t-shirt? Does the world need Luke Skywalker coming from any individual studio? People are free to make the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback of Notre D…
The copyright system is what has enabled so few companies (and one giant corporation in particular) to become the owners, controllers, and beneficiaries of the vast majority of American fiction and culture. From visual media companies, record companies, and publishers, you can probably distill ownership of more than 90% of the culture that the average American lives in to fewer than 20 companies. Copyright has been t…
That IP is sold overseas, so the USA has pushed very very hard to have copyright extended on other countries, presumably because it is a huge financial benefit to the USA (and indirectly to its citizens). Copyright extension is a non-negotiable item in a number of international agreements.
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. The very nature of information is that it yearns to be free. Information cannot be "owned." The point of copyright should be to grant temporary monopolies to encourage creation, not to confer ownership. Thomas Jefferson put it beautifully: If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclus…
> very nature of information is that it yearns to be free. Information cannot be "owned." The nature of information is to dissolve into entropy.
You bought a Western Digital drive too, eh?
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should land be owned? None of us created the planet... But we have selected an economic system that depends on ownership to drive exchange in a market, so... that's why.
Where do you get to actually own own land like you do copyright? Maybe we can add property taxes to copyright to force people to give it up just like land.
Taxing IP is an interesting idea; we do tax income from it, but I think an increasing scale of "you have to pay more to keep this for longer" would be pretty reasonable.
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#238Why ending in a training dataset would be great I don’t understand. I mean what’s the point of having a website at all if the user find what they’ve been looking for on another UI that’s been trained with your content and that’s not your website?
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Don't recruit me into some bullshit argument that rewrites history and entrenches Disney's ill-gotten monopoly. You don't think it's them being allowed to buy Marvel, Pixar, Lucasfilm? Is creativity ruined because I can't make a Mickey Mouse cartoon or t-shirt? Does the world need Luke Skywalker coming from any individual studio? People are free to make the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback of Notre D…
I was "doing the analysis" w/ Toy Story not long ago. They basically invented Woody/Buzz out of whole cloth, "guilty of being an incredibly lovable toy by association" (with other incredibly lovable toys). As I'm watching Toy Story with my kid, and seeing classic toys (eg: Mousetrap in the background), all the "friends" are legit copyright classics from other companies, but Buzz and Woody are "Disney/Pixar Exclusives…
Wow I never noticed this. Thanks for sharing!
Re: Tell HN: We should start to add “ai.txt” as we do for “robots.txt”
#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
My biggest critique of copyright is that is unnecessarily collapses financial reward & creative control. It also pegs both as starting at creation - which is not a particularly meaningful point for either problem. IMO I would rather a structure that: - Guarantees creators (and their descendants) some number of years of financial benefit / veto (30 seems fine!) - i.e. pay me what I want or you can't use this creative…
> After the 30 year benefit expired, you couldn't sue for damages - just costs & to stop use. That's the same thing. No one can use my stuff..........(unless you pay me royalties).
Look - it's absolutely not the same thing. The point is to allow non-profit-seeking uses first. To push off the free-for-all of commercialization until after an interstitial period.
You can certainly pay the rights holder to use their property! Still! You could do it even without copyright I suppose. However, I think a space where it costs time and money for the rights holder to try to stop use and they won't get paid for it is super useful.
Consider this in the case of software as well - you get ~30 years of benefit from your work, but you can refuse to allow companies to incorporate it into their products as long as you live. Whichever companies you want! You can also not do that.