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Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Möbius Sync is more IAP cancer, unfortunately.

They had to do a lot of extra work to make things work on iOS and it does work. I think it was $6 for a full license? I happily paid for it and use it to this day.

I'm really happy that Möbius did the job that the Syncthing devs don't want to do themselves. It's the beauty of open source.

The only people who complain about it are those who think "open source" = "I get everything for free".

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Syncthing is so much better than Dropbox. There are no accounts, so it's much easier to set up syncing between multiple machines that may not belong to the same user, or to shared devices. I use it to sync family documents, work documents, for syncing Factorio save games, ... I've also never had problems with CPU usage (Dropbox often caused high CPU usage in some cases) The only downside is that background sync on iO…

> much easier to set up syncing between multiple machines that may not belong to the same user I always thought this as one of the bigger value-adds of Dropbox; easy cross user management and sharing.

But Dropbox business model requires them to use accounts -- as far as I know you can't set up Dropbox on a shared device without signing into an account. This makes it harder than necessary to set up Dropbox in some scenarios.

Sure, they make it as easy as possible to get started, but "easy to use" for first time users does not mean "easy to use" for people who are willing to spend a few hours to read the docs.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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This is the HN equivalent of “No wireless. Less space than the nomad. Lame” https://m.slashdot.org/story/21026

second comment: > Plus, you can use it as a portable disk. No "content protection". Yay! good times

In the grand scheme of things, music bought on iTunes was only DRMd from 2003-2009. Steve Jobs actually proposed to the music industry to allow it to sell DRM free music as early as 2007 in his famous “Thoughts on Music” open letter that at the time was posted on the front page of Apple’s website.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #34

I switched away from Dropbox to Syncthing https://syncthing.net/ a few years ago. Running it on Windows, Mac and Linux (I don't use it on mobile) to keep all manner of files in sync across a bunch of machines. While it doesn't have all the shell integration and end-user friendliness of Dropbox, it also doesn't have the pitfalls like (non-optional) telemetry and constant up-sell.

I use Dropbox for transfers between Linux and iOS, so syncthing doesn’t help. Is there something similar that supports iOS?

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Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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They had to do a lot of extra work to make things work on iOS and it does work. I think it was $6 for a full license? I happily paid for it and use it to this day.

I'm really happy that Möbius did the job that the Syncthing devs don't want to do themselves. It's the beauty of open source. The only people who complain about it are those who think "open source" = "I get everything for free".

Closed source proprietary software is not "the beauty of open source".

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #79

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https://xkcd.com/1150/ ?

THANK YOU, zamnos! No wonder I couldn't find it. It was a current-events piece about a change in Instagram's TOS. Explanation here: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1150:_Instagram

But also the comic as you remembered it has a different moral from the actual comic, and would be very insulting to apply to non-paying dropbox users.

It's okay for a free service to change how they operate with a take-it-or-leave-it offer. It is not okay for a free service to invade your privacy without permission.

Additionally, all users should be able to trust Dropbox just as much as the paying users.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#237
post #8

Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

Maybe I just have a different view of pricing, but I find €120 a year for 2TB with unlimited versions, ability to share files of any size, rock solid syncing on all my devices etc to be extremely cheap!

It's only cheap if you need those features!

Imagine if someone offered you gasoline for 50 cents a gallon, delivered directly to your car, but for personal use only and the minimum contract is 400 gallons a week.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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Many times on HN, commenters have mocked those who questioned why someone would use Dropbox instead of a method controlled by the user. I guess becausse someone made lots of money from it or it became popular or something. I always found this perplexing because I look at solutions from the perspective of the user, namely, me, not from the perspective of a third party "tech" startup founder. It's insensitive to the pe…

Dropbox is in a rut because Microsoft used their monopoly power to move a lot of people to OneDrive. Which as a Microsoft product of course is all telemetry, no end to end encryption and a poor syncing experience. But the software comes with the OS and the subscription is included with Office 365.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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This looks ideal. Thanks!

Update: Servarica won't take my money. They won't let you sign up from a VPN. That's annoying but it doesn't affect me. Maybe they're trying to prevent Russian bots from signing up or something. Fine. But after I gave them a valid credit card and billing address, they still won't take my money. Here's their support response: "Your IP address does not match with the location you have provided. In order to accept your…

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Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

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post #235

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I'm really happy that Möbius did the job that the Syncthing devs don't want to do themselves. It's the beauty of open source. The only people who complain about it are those who think "open source" = "I get everything for free".

Closed source proprietary software is not "the beauty of open source".

The SyncThing developers wrote on their website that they don't offer an iOS client because Apple doesn't properly support background processing. It seems that the SyncThing developers don't care about iOS.

But here's the beauty of Open Source: anyone can download the source code and try to get it running on iOS.

Now Möbius found a way to get SyncThing kinda working on iOS, and for a small fee you can install it on your iPhone. The wrapper they built around SyncThing isn't open source, but for Möbius customers that doesn't really matter. They just want something that works. And through the beauty of Open Source, someone was able to build it for them, and they get to make a little money with it!

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