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Re: Electricity Prices by Country

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Post by Aardwolf »

perardi wrote: post #84

One little thing that stuck out: The USA leads the way in terms of household electric usage in the world – an average US household consumes approximately 975 kilowatt-hours of electricity each month, three times more than for example the United Kingdom. Which got me wondering how big US domiciles are versus those in the UK. Turns out: lot of big-ass houses here in the US. https://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-…

The site contains a link to the data source (globalpetrolprices.com), which says:

"The chart shows the price of electricity for households and businesses in over 100 countries. The prices are per kWh and include all items in the electricity bill such as the distribution and energy cost, various environmental and fuel cost charges and taxes."

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Post by yodelshady »

0x073 wrote: post #148
jenadine wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine if they had been growing the nuclear instead of reducing it, it would have allowed to almost get rid of lignite and coal. Instead it is still a portion. (And solar and wind being intermittent you can't just have that)

Nulcear is only for base load, coal can be used for medium spikes. Nuclear can't replace coal for this.

That's just a lie.

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Post by yodelshady »

pydry wrote: post #62
mpreda wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To think there were nuclear reactors already built and running perfectly fine in Germany. That were closed down presumably for ecological reasons. Burning coal and natural gas instead.

They werent that many to begin with they growing increasingly expensive to run, were coming to the end of their lifespan and Fukushima was a risk that was hard to ignore. It's interesting how Poland's electricity mix has been 80% coal for decades and this passes without comment, but what really enrages some people is a few nuclear power plants in Germany being mostly swapped out with solar and wind energy. Doesnt see…

Poland isn't a rich country LARPing as environmental saviour whilst increasing its coal consumption in 2022, after decades of being warned about reliance on Russian gas.

Germany does not get on iota of good faith on that. They knew.

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Post by yodelshady »

this_user wrote: post #64
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just any coal, but lignite, the nastiest, dirtiest kind of coal. Definitely greener than nuclear. /s

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/En...

Any chart that misses 2022 in Germany's consumption is just mendacious.

Re: Electricity Prices by Country

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Post by jaimex2 »

rgmerk wrote: post #195

I wouldn’t take the figures quoted in this article seriously. I pay the equivalent of 13c/KWh in Australia, and that’s after recent price rises (thanks Vlad).

You need to average in the supply charge. Our providers load that up to get around solar feed in tariffs.

The rates we pay are disgusting given we import none of it and are one of the worlds largest exporters. (Gas and Coal)

Tasmania is 100% renewable and they pay as much as anyone else.

We have a mining lobby problem.

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Post by dukeyukey »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #197
nonethewiser wrote: post #154

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Is that an average? I had no idea it was that small in the Uk. I mean, what is the point of a house at that size? It just seems like it might as well be an apartment unit .

I've been saying the same thing to anyone who would listen - 80 sq meter paaprtment is much nicer than an equivalent terraced house, you lose like 15m2 to staircases, its a total waste. Maij reason is the stupid leasehold laws - in UK you dont buy apartments, you buy a lease on apartment for 100 years. And there is a landlord of the entire buolding. And they can make up tlrandom rules, like forbod you from owning a c…

Plenty of apartments are sold with commonhold or share of freehold too, it's not all leasehold.

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Post by Symbiote »

laurencerowe wrote: post #207
lhopki01 wrote: post #205

What I often notice when reading articles like this is people aren't aware of how electricity is priced in different countries. When I was in the UK I had one headline figure of price per KWh that covered everything. This seems to apply in a few European countries too. In Canada however I have a price per KWh and then about 7 or so different extra charges on my bill (local access fees, trasmissions charges, rate ride…

It’s been a while since I emigrated but my UK bill used to include a daily “standing charge” on top of the per kWh rate. My bill in the US does split things up between the supplier (who buys the energy) and the infrastructure operator. By US standards it’s not too complex. I definitely miss the EU rule on advertised prices being all inclusive though.

It's probably easy to overlook the fixed, standing charge on a UK electricity bill as it's fairly small, around £10/month.

There are a few tariffs without a standing charge, but I think that would be useful mostly for a holiday home, second home etc.

Re: Electricity Prices by Country

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Post by Symbiote »

dougSF70 wrote: post #41
TrackerFF wrote: post #35

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In July 2022, the average price I paid was 0.0192 NOK / kWh - so that's around $0.0018 / kWh. But that was the monthly average price, the daily minimum can be much lower.

Now I know where to build my LLM focussed data-center

Facebook have three datacentres in Luleå to use the cheap power.

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Post by okasaki »

yodelshady wrote: post #230
perardi wrote: post #84

One little thing that stuck out: The USA leads the way in terms of household electric usage in the world – an average US household consumes approximately 975 kilowatt-hours of electricity each month, three times more than for example the United Kingdom. Which got me wondering how big US domiciles are versus those in the UK. Turns out: lot of big-ass houses here in the US. https://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-…

England has ~25,000 sqft per person. That's the simple inverse of population density. Everything has to come out of that budget.

You can build up...

Unfortunately in the UK apartments are associated with the dirty poors, so people prefer to live in awful tiny houses over spacious apartments.

Re: Electricity Prices by Country

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Post by rgmerk »

jaimex2 wrote: post #235
rgmerk wrote: post #195

I wouldn’t take the figures quoted in this article seriously. I pay the equivalent of 13c/KWh in Australia, and that’s after recent price rises (thanks Vlad).

You need to average in the supply charge. Our providers load that up to get around solar feed in tariffs. The rates we pay are disgusting given we import none of it and are one of the worlds largest exporters. (Gas and Coal) Tasmania is 100% renewable and they pay as much as anyone else. We have a mining lobby problem.

True, but even taking the supply charge into account you still get nowhere near 26 US cents a kilowatt unless you’re getting 90% of your energy from solar. (Note to Americans - we pay maybe a quarter as much as you do for rooftop solar, not taking subsidies into account, so solar is super popular even with people who can’t otherwise stand “greenies”).

And yes, we have a mining lobby problem.

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