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Post by hotpotamus »

meh8881 wrote: post #207
hotpotamus wrote: post #160

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The joke I've heard is "six seasons and a movie" that goes back to broadcast TV series. Something about contracts running six years, so costs balloon after that, and a one-time movie is much easier to schedule a group of actors for. I've long wondered why Netflix doesn't do it more often. I'm sore about the cancellation of "Santa Clarita Diet" and I think it could easily be wrapped up in a movie.

This is a joke from Community about open ended TV shows typically having enough narrative steam to get a compelling run of six seasons and a movie at best. Not a financial thing. Community has crawled through the trenches to get its six seasons and now finally a movie and I wish them the best.

I wasn't thinking of it as a Community joke, but rather a Dan Harmon quote/meme that he placed in Community (he's nothing if not meta). If my memory is correct (and it does get a bit fuzzy over time), my comment above is paraphrasing him or some other explanation of the saying.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

toyg wrote: post #154
phpisthebest wrote: post #152

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google will never get a new service to a billion users right now They have the netflix problem (or does nexflix have the Google problem) they have killed off soo many projects that no one want to invest their time into new ones unless they reach the multi-year stage, and they can not reach the multi-year stage unless they get millions of users... It is a catch 22, and neither company seems to want to address or even…

I don't think Netflix has a particular problem; maintaining series for more than a couple of seasons has always been hard in broadcasting. It's easier to spot now because people have complete visibility: instead of caring about a couple of series in key time slots, they can know care about all series, so it's more noticeable that most series die a sad death. Addressing off-ramps in a nicer way would be an innovation.…

I think google needs to stop launching new products under its own name.

If they dont explode as desireable but are sustainable, spin them out.

Then again, maybe we are all over estimating how sustainable these products really are.

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Post by godshatter »

dev_daftly wrote: post #166
dgrin91 wrote: post #134

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Google Car as in Waymo? Isn't that still growing and getting expanded? Obviously self driving is harder than everyone thought, but its not abandoned by any means.

I still don't understand why everybody thought self-driving was so easy. It was clearly always going to be decades, not years for them to be ready for the mass market but so many people were acting like normal cars were already obsolete.

Not to mention that 10s of thousands of people die from automobile accidents every year, so even if it was dead-simple it would still require a lot of scrutiny and a conservative approach to making it mainstream. And it's nowhere near dead-simple.

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Post by relaxing »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #224
phpisthebest wrote: post #185

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2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Most Broadcast shows run 20-24 Episodes per Season. Netflix is 10 at the most, some 6 episodes. per "season" That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt and why people do not want to invest time in them. it is hard to tell a compelling story in 6 episodes of TV. So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is…

> So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is just starting True Detective season one: 8 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years. Mare of Easttown: 7 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years If you make actual stories instead of trying to create ongoing scenarios, you can hit it out of the park in less than 10 episodes.

Those are 1 hour episodes with no commercial breaks, so the run time is pretty comparable to a season of network TV.

But that's tangential to the point: once you've watched the 10 episodes, what is there to keep you subscribing?

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

relaxing wrote: post #234
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #224

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> So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is just starting True Detective season one: 8 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years. Mare of Easttown: 7 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years If you make actual stories instead of trying to create ongoing scenarios, you can hit it out of the park in less than 10 episodes.

Those are 1 hour episodes with no commercial breaks, so the run time is pretty comparable to a season of network TV. But that's tangential to the point: once you've watched the 10 episodes, what is there to keep you subscribing?

That wasn't the point at all. The nominal point was a hand-wavy claim that you can barely get started with a small number of episodes, which is clearly not true.

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Post by 908B64B197 »

hbossy wrote: post #45
jeroenhd wrote: post #5

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Google Glass wasn't really AR, more like a smart watch taped to your face, so I can imagine there being little business adoption. HoloLens seems much more promising, but development still seems to be slow. I'd love to see AR succeed but with the current price I doubt it'll gain popularity in the near future.

Microsoft has laid off entire HoloLens team. It's dead.

Announcement?

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by 908B64B197 »

rvz wrote: post #227
908B64B197 wrote: post #172

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North is really a footnote. It acquired the Intel Vaunt [0] tech and patents and tried to bring it to market[1]. It failed to do so and was acquired for a little bit less than it raised [2], suggesting Google only valued the patents. The company failed to retain talent and trimmed it's workforce aggressively before the acquisition. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16966530/intel-vaunt-smart... [1] https://www.th…

My point is, Google Glass has been replaced by North's AR glasses technology. Whatever happened to North when it was an independent business is not Google's problem. It would be a total failure for Google if they discontinued all their AR glasses products; signalling their exit from the AR glasses race in general. Thanks to that acquisition, that is not the case.

> My point is, Google Glass has been replaced by North's AR glasses technology.

Intel's tech. And it hasn't replaced it.

No announcements as of yet for their future roadmap. We don't know if it'll replace or supplement the in-house tech Google has. All we know is they are shutting down their existing sales channel for AR glasses. It's impossible to buy a pair with either tech on it at the time.

For all we know, they could bundle these patents and sell them to Samsung or Xiaomi or any other OEM.

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Post by valarauko »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #224
phpisthebest wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Most Broadcast shows run 20-24 Episodes per Season. Netflix is 10 at the most, some 6 episodes. per "season" That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt and why people do not want to invest time in them. it is hard to tell a compelling story in 6 episodes of TV. So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is…

> So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is just starting True Detective season one: 8 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years. Mare of Easttown: 7 episodes and done => one of the most acclaimed TV shows in many years If you make actual stories instead of trying to create ongoing scenarios, you can hit it out of the park in less than 10 episodes.

A friend who's written Netflix original shows says that Netflix has a lot of data regarding user watch behavior, and provide specific directions for how shows should be structured to maximize viewer retention. As a theoretical example, they know people tend to lose interest around 60% mark in episode 2, so that's where you have to insert a plot twist.

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Post by tbyehl »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #171
tbyehl wrote: post #127

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Google Analytics was an acquisition (Urchin)

I mean with Nest you might argue the success was already there but with tools as anlytics, maps etc. it was really Google's quality and push that made it.

Maps was indistinguishable from magic at launch.

Analytics was indistinguishable from Urchin On-Demand at launch. They took a successful $500/m service and made it free w/ an AdSense/AdWords account.

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Post by nr2x »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #174
phpisthebest wrote: post #152

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google will never get a new service to a billion users right now They have the netflix problem (or does nexflix have the Google problem) they have killed off soo many projects that no one want to invest their time into new ones unless they reach the multi-year stage, and they can not reach the multi-year stage unless they get millions of users... It is a catch 22, and neither company seems to want to address or even…

It’s worth noting the competitive space for Google Glass Enterprise is still busy - products like Vuzix and Realware are succeeding at the same use cases. So if you were in charge of procuring such a solution three years ago and opted not to go for Glass because Google has a history of killing projects, you saved your firm a lot of wasted time and money.

Exactly.
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