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The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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If you are using alpine as a desktop distro, don’t you have bigger problems than Netflix not playing? (also how are you even using alpine for desktop. I tried to look it up once and gave up soon)

Things have improved. Both alpine and void-musl are usable desktops nowadays; my DAW is on the latter.

What DAW are you using, by the way?

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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With DRM the user who owns the machine is the "attacker". The keys have already been handed to the user, he only needs to get them out. This is like hiding an API key in a public website's javascript with rot13. Very much security by obscurity. Proper security means that the attacker should never be in possession of the key.

You’re saying that a hardware security module is like rot13? When you say the attacker “only” needs to get them out, the “only” is doing a lot of work, there.

Yes, but it only has to be done once.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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> The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU. To be precise it is "The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU using glibc." In other words, even though I have x86_64 cpu, since I'm on alpine, I'm fucked anyway.

wasn't Firefox including widevine for DRM stuff ? I don't have any issues playing Netflix and Amazon Video from Firefox in Kubuntu

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#234

Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed. The method hasn't been made public as it would obviously get patched rather quickly (if it even can be patched). That's why Netflix content is available almost immediately on any decent tracker. The quality would not look nearly as good if it was grabbed using a capture card. Like others have mentioned, it's security theater for the content owners who most likely require…

Why would a capture card look any worse? Isn't it capturing lossless video output? Just because of the re-encode?

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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The signal remains digital, but decompressed into a raw bitstream that would be many mbps (think how big lossless filesizes get). So it has to be re-encoded but you’re doubling the compression artefacts, and can only avoid them by really dialing up the bitrate. Maybe someone made a video encoder algorithm that’s tuned toward already compressed and decompressed video. Though I’m in the camp of watching for quality of…

A single re-encode will make a difference. But with the proper settings it will be almost unnoticeable.

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#236

> The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU. To be precise it is "The only officially supported way to use Widevine on Linux is using Chrome on an x86_64 CPU using glibc." In other words, even though I have x86_64 cpu, since I'm on alpine, I'm fucked anyway.

what are reasons to choose musl over glibc? (or glibc over musl?)

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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post #171

Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed. The method hasn't been made public as it would obviously get patched rather quickly (if it even can be patched). That's why Netflix content is available almost immediately on any decent tracker. The quality would not look nearly as good if it was grabbed using a capture card. Like others have mentioned, it's security theater for the content owners who most likely require…

Just because piracy is possible doesn’t mean they should make it as easy as it can be for users. There’s value in even minor hurdles. They clear think it’s worth it.

> they clearly think it is worth it.

That is like arguing that "clearly people think fax is secure, otherwise they wouldn't use it". No, it is obviously theater but other people insist you use it and while useless the effort to change it is "not worth it".

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#238

Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed. The method hasn't been made public as it would obviously get patched rather quickly (if it even can be patched). That's why Netflix content is available almost immediately on any decent tracker. The quality would not look nearly as good if it was grabbed using a capture card. Like others have mentioned, it's security theater for the content owners who most likely require…

Why would a capture card look any worse? Isn't it capturing lossless video output? Just because of the re-encode?

I think it's both things. Netflix, and other platforms, don't send lossless streams to you. Even at 4k. Plus, you are re-encoding it. Its like doing a VHS copy from another VHS, or creating a new JPEG image from another. Always there is a loss of quality.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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The point is, the extra "protection" is worthless.

It’s not. It’s enough to deter casual piracy. There is some value in that. If you could just right click and choose “download” for any Netflix original don’t you think that would be a problem for them?

> It’s not. It’s enough to deter casual piracy. There is some value in that.

Is it? Anyone is able to use obs studio these days, you know, to be an influencer. It is all I needed to "backup" offline versions of some shows for my kids before we would take a plane. I am pretty sure I could have torrented them out as well.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#240

Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed. The method hasn't been made public as it would obviously get patched rather quickly (if it even can be patched). That's why Netflix content is available almost immediately on any decent tracker. The quality would not look nearly as good if it was grabbed using a capture card. Like others have mentioned, it's security theater for the content owners who most likely require…

> Widevine has been privately cracked/bypassed.

Sort of.

Widevine has various levels, and there are exploits for the lower ones.

But the upper ones really only have a vulnerability if a hardware key gets extracted, and Netflix shows in higher resolutions are increasingly not available anywhere because of that. Stranger things Season 4 was only available at 720p for more than a month.

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