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Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Please, just add a physical switch to disconnect the microphone and camera and even battery! Why the hell do we need special chips to do this? Every chip can be hacked... internet hackers can't turn on physical switches...

It is not disconnected by “a chip”. It is disconnected by something that closely resembles a physical switch.

This is the point of the article. There is no software involved. It can’t be hacked.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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I usually want to walk away from the computer. I sit at the computer enough already. If a call comes in, I want - sometimes need - to be able to walk away. The long/short of it is, both devices 'know' about the airpods. Call comes in to phone, during an answer, having airpods switch to the phone quickly - like, under 2 seconds - is what I'm expecting. I'm not sure that's an unreasonable expectation (maybe it is?). At…

This "why" has been growing since Steve passed. I have been an Apple user for 20+ years. The experience has been slowly going downhill for the last 5 years. I think they survived on Steve's vision for the first couple of years after his passing. The brains behind Apple are still there, clearly, M1, M2... the vision is missing. The why's you mention seem to be those unpolished pieces Steve would never have allowed the…

This is why I (and many others) I think still have some fond memories of Snow Leopard, marketed as 'bug fix' release. That feels like the last time there was a united push to polish up existing stuff without throwing in 'new' things.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Unsure if I would love or hate that, but it might be more natural than the iphone/airpods/mac "incoming call" fiasco I face regularly. Airpods/MacOS - listening to background music. Phone call comes in... VERY LOUD facetime 'ring' announces on mac that I'm getting a phone call. Pick up phone to answer it... holy tamole - it's minimum 8 seconds between clicking 'answer' and... eventually airpods switching over to phon…

Honest question: Why don’t you answer the call from the Mac? Or do you have that continuity feature disabled?

This was one of the first things I disabled with Continuity. As for why, it's not that complicated.

1) It's a distraction. I am also one of those people who turned on "Silence unknown callers" to send everyone I don't know to voicemail. If it's important, you'll get a message there. My phone either lives in my pocket or is on the desk next to me, so it's very unlikely I'd miss something.

2) At least with AirPods, although I have "connect automatically" turned on, I will never intentionally connect them to more than one source at a time.

Therin lies madness and bugs.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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I usually want to walk away from the computer. I sit at the computer enough already. If a call comes in, I want - sometimes need - to be able to walk away. The long/short of it is, both devices 'know' about the airpods. Call comes in to phone, during an answer, having airpods switch to the phone quickly - like, under 2 seconds - is what I'm expecting. I'm not sure that's an unreasonable expectation (maybe it is?). At…

Why have the Mac ring if you don’t answer from the Mac? I turned that off in settings. Still text via Mac though!

"settings" was vague. I looked in system settings - nothing there. Apparently, it's a 'facetime' setting? Will this make switching 'audio from mac via airpods' to 'audio from iphone via airpods' any faster?

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

#235
post #53
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I was recently trying to figure out whether the microphone is usable when using my notebook in clamshell-mode. Turns out Apple added a privacy/safety feature to all Apple silicon-based Mac notebooks and Intel-based Mac notebooks with the Apple T2 Security Chip. It will hardware disconnect the microphone when the lid is closed, based on the lid sensors. Pretty cool safety feature!! Even though I'm sad I can't use my m…

And how are we supposed to trust Apple that this is in fact what's happening? With a Framework laptop I have a hardware physical switch and I can actually open it up and see the PCB trace and verify that it disconnects the microphone.

Hardware physical switches are a gimmick feature - if you can’t trust your OS to that degree, then you surely have bigger problems than your microphone.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

#236
post #67

They have this feature but closing the lid on a MacBook or even putting it to sleep allows Bluetooth devices to stay connected. Heck, a MacBook even while in sleep mode will connect to Bluetooth devices. As far as I can see, this requires a third-party app to fix. Can an application still use the microphone on a Bluetooth device that’s connected?

This has to be the most annoying thing in MacOS. My laptop, soundly sleeping in my backpack, takes over my bluetooth headphones all the time.

Keyboard Maestro and Shortcuts.app can turn it on and off on Sleep and Wake.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

#237

Anyone have an explanation of how Apple actually decides what merits security and what does not? (For example, it’s my understanding that turning turn off a iPhone, it’s bluetooth, etc — does not actually completely turn them off. Also appears hardware/OS specs vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction; for example, it is my understanding China limits a number of iPhone’s hardware/OS specs for domestic iPhones.)

When you bring up the option to turn off your phone, there's a toggle to let you turn off "Find my iPhone", with a decent description: "iPhone Findable After Power Off >" > iPhone Remains Findable After Power Off > Find My helps you locate this iPhone when it is lost or stolen, even in power reserve mode or after power off. > > The location is visible in Find My on your other devices, and to people in Family Sharing…

Understand your point, though doesn’t match my experiences turning a iPhone off fully charged before sleeping (including configuration you mentioned) — and then leaving it off for the night only to find the battery drained significantly in the morning upon turning it on. Beyond that, unlike the OP article that’s subject of this thread, not aware of any Apple support article that clearly states off is off if XYZ is done. Obvious solution would be a switch that physically disconnects the battery, drains capacitors, etc. — though it would likely require redesign of how the system clock pulls power, though might be wrong:

- https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/87580/how-does-an-...

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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post #136

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The kids iPads should be on their own managed kids Apple IDs, should they not? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201084

Emphasis on should here. In the "real world" with real family pressures a lot of the time good account hygene goes out the window. In my experience account sharing is rife on "kid" iPads, especially as many of them are often hand-me-down devices that people don't want to have to go through the pain of reinstalling everything again for a new user. The ideal solution is iOS on iPad gets multiple user account support (l…

For the average person, they (Apple) probably feel like Family Sharing is the right mechanism to address these issues. Education and Business customers have Shared iPad because of the different environments they operate in where the use case is clear.

In a world where (generally speaking) people are expensive and hardware is cheap, Apple probably thinks each person having their own device is easier than trying to shuffle around - potentially - 1 TB home directories for each person.

We're getting closer, but storage and networks need to get even better before the majority of regular people can do this and will tolerate it, not just the power users.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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post #67

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This has to be the most annoying thing in MacOS. My laptop, soundly sleeping in my backpack, takes over my bluetooth headphones all the time.

Seems like a hard choice between two kinds of behavior that will annoy two different sets of people, and are mutually exclusive.

There used to be a option to disable bluetooth devices waking a Mac. It was removed a couple years ago. I can kind of understand because this would also prevent a keyboard/mouse waking the Mac, which isn’t ideal. I assume a lot of people were turning this setting off then complaining their Mac won’t wake.

However, if a Macbook is sleeping and closed with no peripherals attached, I can’t see any use case for waking from bluetooth. It doesn’t make sense.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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post #127

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Hello 2005 GNU/Linux! Installing random packages to fix OS stuff that should work out of the box was fun for a while :-)

here's the thing, though: "working as intended" and "working as you intend" are very different things. no operating system ever has arrived on a user's computer completely configurable to any given user's preferences. you're complaining about something that simply isn't possible without third party software and time spent by the user in question.

> "working as intended" and "working as you intend" are very different things.

You're holding it wrong

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