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Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an Indonesian flea market

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Re: Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an Indonesian flea market

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I kind of see where the "outrage" might come from in the lead as apparently they promised that the shoes were going to be recycled. However, the mantra is "reduce reuse recycle". Clearly it is better in the save the planet sense that perfectly good shoes were reused rather than destroyed for playground padding. I'm a liberal in general but this kind of false outrage makes us look foolish.

I find the extent to which Dow lied to be outrageous. It did not say the shoes would be recycled, but specifically said they would be used to make playground padding. Why shouldn’t honesty be expected? After all, this is a country where people still get caned. Reusing the shoes as was the case is of course better.

Actually, I think there is a case for fraud, somewhere in this mess and if authorities care to pursue it. Lying to the public, to encourage the donation of shoes, then various "middle men" making profits selling them, and where it was known that no recycling was taking place.

Re: Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an Indonesian flea market

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Someone" might know something, but you in particular have no idea what you're talking about. You think you know better than Indonesians what their laws should be, but you don't.

I guess people can decide that for themselves. Just one question: did "Americans" decide to make becoming a licensed hairstylist require hundreds of hours of training and thousands of dollars in course fees? Or was it special interest groups?

We Americans don't have representative government; rather we have an increasingly less convincing simulation thereof. Your question is merely a specific example of this.

You might follow with an obvious question about Indonesia. Since that nation is a vassal of USA, the answer is equally obvious. Let's not stop thinking just yet. This is why context is important. The certification scams you cite serve to move wealth from the poor to the wealthy. That is bad. Requirements that imports to poor nations not be mostly trash serve to protect the wealth of the poor from that sort of extraction. That is good. More familiarity with Indonesia, or with any similar developing nation, would have provided you with this knowledge already.

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