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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by roneythomas6 »

tempoponet wrote: post #144
lasfallas wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2017 called and wants your comment back. Samsung is best Android manufacturer in class regarding OS upgrades and security updates, Bixby can be switched off and actually performs well in tests. Visible bloatware has been reduced significantly and most of the visible apps you can uninstall or deactivate.

2023 calling - According to this Ars article from 3 days ago the Galaxy S23 install size is 4x that of stock Android. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/the-samsung-galaxy-s... It's not that comforting just being able to uninstall/disable things after paying ~$1000 for hardware loaded with apps that benefit everyone but the customer.

That's because Ars didn't do proper investigation into how storage is computed. One UI reports storage conversion losses associated with representing 1,024 bytes per KB as 1,000 bytes per KB. For example, a device advertised with 512 GB of storage actually has closer to 476 GB (GiB) of usable space. Likewise, a 128 GB model has approximately 119 GB of storage, with 256 GB yielding 238 GB of space.

Basically, higher the storage size, more the inaccuracies and more number of ghost storage will appear in system. It does this because [Android basically computes](https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1622706823940698114...) all files 'f' and empty size 'e' separately and finds the difference of given total size and (f+e) and assigns that to system.

https://twitter.com/Golden_Reviewer/status/16228515345634713...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/One-UI-5-1-bloatware-is-not-co...

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by dileepkr »

To all the iphone diehards, I recently switched from Samsung to iphone 14PM and I whole heartedly hate following things:

1. The keyboard in ios: its unintuitive and ancient compared to the android counterparts. And No, Gboard, swiftkey keyboard in ios suck equally bad too.

2. Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. This alone drains ~8% of battery overnight on my iphone and ~18% on my ipad overnight even with background app refresh turned off.

3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass. Some apps design their own navigation pattern and it sucks to operate the phone in 1 hand. For e.g, Youtube requires you to pull down on the video currently playing to go back to search results than allowing the native back swipe or back arrow on top left.

Meanwhile, I have agree that the apps in iOS are much nicer than the android apps, the same apps I used in android which sucked big time work flawlessly in iOS. FaceID is much reliable than the shitty in screen fingerprint readers in Samsung/Android phones.

So both Android and iOS have their pros and cons, and after using both, I can confidently say iphone is not the best phone in the world and user had to experience both to choose what suits them better.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by mynameisash »

I'm particularly frustrated with the market for phones. I'w not going to buy an iPhone, and I'd really like to avoid the Google ecosystem (eg, by using GrapheneOS). I just received new Pixel 6a phones for me and my family yesterday only to discover that there's no 3.5mm jack.

I really feel like old man yelling at cloud, but the more advanced phones and the software get, the more I miss the days of my cheapy Motorola flip phone.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by dzikimarian »

nordsieck wrote: post #191
dzikimarian wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: miss remembered test result.

> And one of the worst "performance for buck" scores in recent MKBHD camera blind test. 1. The test covered the 2022 iPhoneSE, not the 2016 version that your parent was talking about. 2. The iPhone SE 3 had the 3rd highest "votes per dollar"[1]. --- 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdjmGimh04&t=470s

Indeed I remembered that wrongly. My bad.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by sliken »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #186
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #174

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No that’s because your battery is old. Swap the battery and that “slow old phone” suddenly has the exact same speed as the current flagship

Interesting! i would have expected old battery to lead to keeping a charge for less time, but can you explain how it leads to worse perceived performance?

As a battery ages it's capacity decreases. That's noticeable in that it will carry a load for less time, and the voltage it can sustain decreases.

On most phones you realize that when an old phone goes from 15%, you do something CPU intensive and the phone dies seconds later.

So it's reasonable to lower the peak power use on older batteries to lengthen battery life and make it more stable. Generally battery life increases when you are gentle. Charge slowly (which results in lower temps), avoid charging over 90% or discharging below 10%, and decrease the peak loads.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by luxuryballs »

t8sr wrote: post #162

Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…

I know we are typically against monopolies (pls don’t flame me) but why should we care if it’s not something that’s actually important like food/water/medicine?

I don’t see the sense when the government tries to break up a monopoly like Google for being too good at selling online ads, or likewise worrying about some company dominating augmented reality chips.

I’d be more interested in making sure that such technology is never required for basic living than about stopping companies from achieving it.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by amalter »

manojlds wrote: post #203
super256 wrote: post #35

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> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. I wish this was true for my old Android phone. I still have a OnePlus5 lying in my drawer, which still has stellar performance, but doesn't get any new software features.

Same. My OP5 is still very good and I prefer it to the bulky monsters. My wife upgraded from same to iphone 14 pro max and is seriously questioning what's so great that it's such a bulky device.

Return for an Iphone 14 Pro or just Iphone 14. My partner did the same thing. If you don't want the big screen and fancy triple camera system, get the cheaper options. They will still be rocketship fast with long battery life and beautiful screens.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by jamiek88 »

tempoponet wrote: post #144
lasfallas wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2017 called and wants your comment back. Samsung is best Android manufacturer in class regarding OS upgrades and security updates, Bixby can be switched off and actually performs well in tests. Visible bloatware has been reduced significantly and most of the visible apps you can uninstall or deactivate.

2023 calling - According to this Ars article from 3 days ago the Galaxy S23 install size is 4x that of stock Android. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/the-samsung-galaxy-s... It's not that comforting just being able to uninstall/disable things after paying ~$1000 for hardware loaded with apps that benefit everyone but the customer.

SIXTY GIGABYTES?

Holy moly that’s crazy.

That’s three full 64bit win10 installs!

It doesn’t even have the a/b partitions! Which is just as well at 60GB!

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by mrtksn »

t8sr wrote: post #162

Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? The interesting point here, which is corroborated by different sources than just TFA, is that Apple's silicon is 1-2 generations ahead of everyone else. Whether you like iPhone or Android, I think we should all agree that's a bad situation for the world to be in. Apple's advantage in mobile CPUs is coming at a time when…

> Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why?

It's like football game for geeks, it's not a big deal. It's fun as long as you don't take it too seriously.

On a more serious note, I prefer Apple's style of doing things and pray to the gods Android doesn't obliterate Apple's OS. Just last week I got my hands on a Amazon Fire TV, it was cool until the AirScreen app started not working for some reason and my blood started boiling with disgust towards Android and everything it stands for. I'm a huge "Just Works" enjoyer and Android's market share dominance scares me.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by wpm »

Wingman4l7 wrote: post #139
konart wrote: post #25

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> in which I can run my browser engine of choice Soon on iOS too, to be fair. USB-C to follow most likely.

> USB-C to follow most likely Only because Apple was forced to by an EU ruling. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they restrict sales of USB-C phones to EU-only, out of spite.

Are you going to volunteer to be the one to explain to my 60 and 70 year old relatives why they need to get all new cables for their phones?
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