Would it make sense to change the title? I read it to be about people who bought AMD-only laptops from System76, needing to return them to System76 for some reason.
"New AMD Ryzen System76 laptop coming soon"?
System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
I run my 1440p screen at 1080p because my portable monitor is 1080p and I don't want to try and setup different scaling on different screens in X or move to Wayland. I'm happy enough.
I run 4 different screens with different resolutions in X with no problem, no setup. Is there a specific error you run into?
It's not the resolutions, different resolutions is fine. It's the scaling. 1440p at 14" requires scaling because everything is too small (for me, anyway). But the portable monitor doesn't need scaling. I couldn't get it to work nicely without running two different X servers (one for each display).
I am pretty sure it's a limitation in X, the dpi setting is global, not per output. Wayland seems to have solved this, but it has other problems for me (forced vsync being the major one). So I just live in a lower resolution.
I don't really care, like some of the other posters in the thread, the lower resolution annoys me less than a 60hz refresh rate (laptop monitor is 144hz). Luckily X can handle different refresh rates for different outputs.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
this is in addition to intel, so what's your point? You don't like system76 hardware at all and will be switching?
From a hardware side things are spec'd fine. The issue is on the firmware/ company side. I no longer have confidence in the company to support their products. A couple of qol firmware updates could have fixed that.
Same for me. The Galago Pro (galp5) is quite ok but the firmware has bugs and they are not fixing them. Over the last 2 years I have had the fan running constantly when a USB-C device was connected, the fan going into full turbo mode over night, the screen started to flicker after wakeup on battery and some other issues. And battery life is beyond terrible.
After two years of struggle I have thrown the towel and got a used Macbook for the same price. I am starting to question their engineering priorities. Instead of developing new desktop environments I think they should make sure their devices are rock solid and work perfectly with Linux. That's their USP and they are not delivering on that promise.
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#234The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.
Yah I don't get why these laptop manufactures keep shipping garbage screens. I got a 3:2 2160 x 1440, IPS screen on a $200 tablet a few months ago. My laptop has a 16:9 that looks worse, and has lower resolution despite the machine costing 6x as much. So, please, its hard to call your product "premium" if its screen is worse than a bottom of the barrel tablet.
>Yah I don't get why these laptop manufactures keep shipping garbage screens.
Because they're cheaper.
>My laptop has a 16:9 that looks worse, and has lower resolution despite the machine costing 6x as much.
Right, so your laptop mfgr spent less money on the screen, charged more money, and got a higher profit margin -> win! This lets their execs get bigger bonuses so they can buy better yachts. What's not to like here?
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#235This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…
16:10? That's a dead format. It was seeing some popularity around ~2006 but quickly died out as 16:9 took over. 21:9 is the popular ultra-widescreen option. 16:9 is the popular regular option. Acting like 16:10 is the direction the industry is going is just bizarre.
Dead format??? Lol im not sure where youve been these last couple of years to not notice it, but 16:10 screen on laptop is definitely on the rise.
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I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.
Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter
This does look amazing.
System76 should work with these guys as they are doing what System76 should be doing with their laptops.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does 144hz matter to you if you aren't playing games? This is not a gaming machine. You absolutely will not notice the difference for non-gaming tasks between 60hz to 80hz/100hz/120hz/144hz/244hz.
If you haven't used high refresh monitor. You probably won't notice the difference. But after you do it once, there is no way to go back. Just like high resolution monitors. Mouse and scrolling feels so much more smoother on a high refresh rate monitor. To the point if windows messed up the refresh rate, you can instantly feel it.
I have screens running at both 60Hz and 120Hz right now.
For mousing, I can see it but I don't care. I even used my main screen at 30Hz for a while, and mousing was fine.
For scrolling, I scroll at the click rate of my mouse wheel, which is usually 6-20. With no smoothing applied, because I don't want it, scrolling looks the same on both screens.
It's really only games where I care.
So don't be so sure about how universal your own preferences are.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.
Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter
I wish they'd get rid of the DC charging jack. I'd rather have 2 USB C ports
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I mean, it wouldn't even be hard for them to partner with someone like ASUS, Acer, etc to produce semi-custom hardware. The strict Clevo-based hardware will always turn me away from buying from them when I can get multiple AMD 6000-based laptops from Asus that run Linux fine (after a wifi-card swap, the MediaTek's they use are useless); and have superior build qualities.
They did partner with HP I think.
why don't they get rid of DC charging? two USB-C ports is what I want!
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#240This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…
I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.
There will never be a MacBook of Linux or Windows unless the OS is optimized as much as MacOS is to the underlying hardware. Windows is optimized to a high degree and still cannot match the standby/resume times or battery life of MacOS, and thats without M1.
Linux is not even in the same ballpark. System76 apply some tweaks but its still Ubuntu and as a desktop OS its lacking in many areas.