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Re: Spotifyd

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> Aye, aye. Honestly, at about €1 per MP3 (which is on the low end, looking at Beatport), I couldn't afford listening to the amount of different music I do now. > fed by a recommendation algorithm As opposed to being fed by the maintainer of some web site? > I may have a higher tolerance for my tastes not being pandered to > Seems to me that you are doing precisely that. > What is the price point that makes piracy mo…

I work in the industry, so I've watched Spotify's editorial playlists go from great to terrible, with increasing amounts of payola, nepotism, and corporate influence, leading to a slow homogenization of music culture. Six or seven years ago there was genuine independent acts breaking through Spotify. Today, the ones who get played on the so-called recommendation algorithm are seriously propped up by a small team of r…

Again, the snob and the gatekeeping.

> watched Spotify's editorial playlists ... leading to a slow homogenization of music culture

All based on the assumption that people only use editorial playlists and there's no other way.

> Spotify's recommendations are not the fair system that you think it is

I never wrote anything even remotely saying that I think their recommendations are 'fair'.

> worse than radio tastemakers of the past

Is it though? With radio, you had pretty much no choice. I can now pick from millions of playlists on a whim. If I find a new artist in some way, I can listen to all their music and I can instantly find artists with similar styles.

You assume that people only listen to curated playlists.

You gatekeep by implying that only genuine independent acts are worth listening to.

You imply that if Spotify wouldn't exist, people would have better ways to find music.

None of this is true. Most people would would just go back to listening to the same 10 songs being played on the radio over and over. Or they would venture to iTunes, Beatport or the likes, which are just as curated as Spotify.

For me, Spotfy is a nearly limitless collection of all the music I could want to listen to. Vacationing in Germany and hear a Polish song I like? Add it to Spotify and find more from the artist, while still on the highway. Feel nostalgic? Play Major Tom and some more Bowie on a whim while on the way to work. Want to discover music that sounds somewhat like another artist? Open Spotify Radio for the artist and let the Algo show me some other stuff. Suddenly have a craving for a genre I never listen to? Search for a playlist on the genre, which usually isn't curated by Spotify.

Through this process I recently found some songs by an artist who's most played song is at So please stop with the gatekeeping and just accept that people might actually like Spotify and use it in another way than just playing curated playlists. And even if they do just use it that way, accept it.

Re: Spotifyd

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It literally says, all over the documentation, requires Spotify premium. Spotify’s docs say that things like this require Spotify premium. They also very clearly enumerate features that are only included with the premium tier, which this provides. Without saying too much, the modification is very clearly to remove a “did you play us, if not die” check which is quite intentional. You should be aware that this thing wh…

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As others on the thread have alluded to, it’s not a difficult thing to reason through. The code is right there, feel free to go take a look.

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Oh, but it can. And already does. Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models. A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often…

Mastodon is not an “open garden” and can easily, if not more easily, be as arbitrarily administered as any of the social media platforms you’ve mentioned. Each servers admin can and have cut off access to other nodes. See what’s happening with journa.host as an example.

Why is that a problem, and how does it contradict my point?

Re: Spotifyd

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Oh, but it can. And already does. Maybe not for your exact use-case. But "open" doesn't need large numbers, market saturation or a monopoly: those are traits that come from investor-fueled business-models. A mastodon account that has great communication with seven other accounts is a 100% success! It doesn't need access to billions of people, it just needs to fulfill a need: talk to several fine people. And it often…

I would have to agree with your sentiment. But for most people, good enough just isn't good enough .

I don't understand what you mean.

If it has to be "better" then it must improve. But improvement doesn't mean "competing with FAANG". It just means being good enough today, and keep improving from there.

My income 35 years ago was vastly different from today. I needed far less, but it also grew over time. But that doesn't mean I must make millions today to consider my life a success. I'm happy today. Isn't that "successful"?

Re: Spotifyd

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As someone who does own his music, but has Spotify for convenience: What OSS app provides a good experience across my Linux desktop and Android mobile? I rip my own songs, but I want something that's better than Spotify to listen to it. Then again, I listen to music on my Alexa too, so I think it would be hard for something to interface with that.

Navidrome should be plenty, but it's just a subsonic server with a simple web front end. You can use any subsonic compliant client for Android, there's plenty. I had Navidrome hooked up to my Sonos system as a test. Ultimately you are at the mercy of the walled gardens if you choose to use them, some are free-er than others.

Thank you, I tried Plexamp and Jellyfin but neither worked well. I'll try Subsonic, that's a very good suggestion, thanks!

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As others on the thread have alluded to, it’s not a difficult thing to reason through. The code is right there, feel free to go take a look.

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Re: Spotifyd

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I work in the industry, so I've watched Spotify's editorial playlists go from great to terrible, with increasing amounts of payola, nepotism, and corporate influence, leading to a slow homogenization of music culture. Six or seven years ago there was genuine independent acts breaking through Spotify. Today, the ones who get played on the so-called recommendation algorithm are seriously propped up by a small team of r…

Again, the snob and the gatekeeping. > watched Spotify's editorial playlists ... leading to a slow homogenization of music culture All based on the assumption that people only use editorial playlists and there's no other way. > Spotify's recommendations are not the fair system that you think it is I never wrote anything even remotely saying that I think their recommendations are 'fair'. > worse than radio tastemakers…

What's the gatekeeping? The biggest gatekeeping is Spotify's editorial system. No one is judging you on your music tastes, so you can stop with the projection and calling people 'snobs'. The problem is with artists not getting a fair shot. I can tell you from first hand experience that over 95% of artists that have >100k streams (which is nothing) know someone connected to Spotify -- the social dynamics of which heavily skew towards rich, trust fund kids.

It's great that you can find an artist that has <3k plays that sings in an incredibly local dialect. That artist is probably making $10 over the entire year. I don't think that's a fair deal for artists. Spotify is the single biggest gatekeeper for artists finding meaningful success. That is a fact.

Re: Spotifyd

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This uses librespot for the actual communication with Spotify's servers. Note that to get it to support Spotify Free, you need to compile a custom librespot with this part of the code commented out, that checks for Spotify Premium: https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot/blob/6dc7a11b09b5... And then use this with spotifyd instead of the original.

the artists don't even get their royalties when using Spotifyd though
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