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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by rvz »

bennyp101 wrote: post #43
yunohn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First time I’m using Mastodon, and it’s incredibly slow. Is the app any faster than the web app?

There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals, give them time or run your own instance and federate

> There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals

Again, Expecting non-techies to self-host their own instances after several of them falling over due to light usage and signups is quite wishful thinking and reiterates the need for users to heavily rely on more centralized instances to on board users.

Well all know what happened to mastodon.technology which was run by an individual. It doesn't look smart to sit on an instance that can barely handle hundreds of thousands of users signing up at once and ends up folding up.

> give them time or run your own instance and federate

Yeah, the journalists at journa.host has never been more alive for journalists and is going just great with a much better reach than Twitter [1] /s.

[0] https://ashfurrow.com/blog/mastodon-technology-shutdown/

[1] https://twitter.com/ajaromano/status/1594432548222152705

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by shadowgovt »

cldellow wrote: post #50
kristiandupont wrote: post #6

How does one find a good Mastodon server? On his website it says "Follow me at @paulg@mas.to" -- does that mean that he is on mas.to? What if I want to follow him but also someone on another server? Or do I not understand how it works?

> How does one find a good Mastodon server? Hm, what makes a good server? I think for me, I want: not going to disappear, high uptime, low latency, moderate moderation. You can measure moderation by going to most server's /about page, to see which servers they've limited interactions with. I'm on hachyderm.io. It's good, but could be better. I expect it will remain at least at this baseline level of quality, so I'm t…

Yes, this is the thing. Mastodon has a bit of a discovery issue that other social network options don't have (it's akin to asking "What's a good email provider?").

I haven't tried it myself, but this purports to suggest a server based on some info about you (https://instances.social/). And (https://joinmastodon.org/servers) is kind of the "main" list.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by adharmad »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #2

It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

Very likely the only people who can reliably send that message to Musk are $TSLA investors. Until he has the cushion provided by $TSLA stock price, he is pretty much going to continue doing whatever he wants to.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by tekla »

ryukafalz wrote: post #164
quaintdev wrote: post #96

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The most ridiculous problem with Mastodon I think is the fact that even if I visit his profile I can't follow him because we are on two different servers. I have to copy his profile url and paste it in my logged in instance. This then takes me to his profile where I can follow him. That's just too much work!

There's a few browser extensions that help with that. I just started using this one, it's pretty slick: https://github.com/Lartsch/FediAct The underlying problem is that browsers are not designed with this sort of federated application use case in mind, so Mastodon and friends have to do some awkward tricks to get it to work at all.

Wow, why the hell would any normie use this?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by ericzawo »

imagine still unironically saying stuff like “i support Elon's vision but this is a singular bad decision” — you either lack the capacity to understand there’s no vision here other than off the cuff decision making or wildly intellectually dishonest and are playing both sides.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by LarsDu88 »

Remember how George Lucas made Star Wars and became the genius billionaire who could do no wrong. Then he got a divorce and made Howard the Duck (quite possibly the worst movie of all time).

I think the same thing is happening here. As a startup founder you have guardrails, spouses, investors. You have Brian De Palma rewriting the opening trailer crawl, you have Marcia Lucas helping the edit, and you have your old professor at USC Irvin Kershner guiding your hand.

Now, Elon is the wealthiest man in the world and he has turned into Jar Jar Musk. It's time to see how this bird themed turd pans out.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by jacquesm »

dahdum wrote: post #130
thinking4real wrote: post #20

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Not as long as Elon continues his trend of acting progressively stupider. At least to me, there’s a stark difference in his public appearances. He used to appear intelligent, thoughtful, and nuanced. Now he’s disjointed, often tired, and quick to deflect with jokes or political controversy. Doesn’t seem like the same man.

I've seen people that were super intelligent and compassionate go on drug binges and come out like Musk. Just as intelligent, but now no longer able to empathize with others and using whatever intelligence was left for malice and damage.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by flutas »

jeffbee wrote: post #160
flutas wrote: post #62

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>It's news to me that that users are not allowed to mention other social networks' accounts on Twitter anymore. Isn't that a mischaracterization though? The new policy they announced, as far as I've seen, only applies if the account is "solely" promoting other brands. [0] > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usern…

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> Read it with your entire brain.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Don't be an ass.

> we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms

> AND

> content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Nostr and Post.

I'm reading it explicitly how it's written when taking the grammar into account. [0] I've even expanded it below, so that you can see how it reads without a comma.

> we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms

AND

> we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Nostr and Post.

Looking at the full policy though, yeah their tweets aren't in line with what the full policy states.[1]

[0]: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma-before-and/

[1]: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platfo...

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by cyberphobe »

throwntoday wrote: post #206
KMag wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon could both be smart and making huge mistakes. It happens all the time.

I think they are laying the groundwork to allow creators to monetize their tweets and additional content. As it stands a lot of creators are monetizing their content off platform (patreon, substack, youtube, onlyfans, etc.) and the goal is to lock them and their content into twitter. I think it's a good idea as content is king, but they should have rolled this out after they had established an ability to monetize. On…

Yeah it's probably that, not that everyone is fleeing Elon's $44 billion dying platform and he's is trying to stop it in whatever way he can.
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