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BundesMessenger, a secure messenger for Germany’s public administration
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You are not required to carry your ID card with you. "I am not a lawyer" but: "Deutsche im Sinne des Art. 116 Abs. 1 GG sind nach § 1 Personalausweisgesetz (PAuswG) verpflichtet, sobald sie 16 Jahre alt sind und der allgemeinen Meldepflicht unterliegen oder sich überwiegend in Deutschland aufhalten, einen gültigen Ausweis zu besitzen und ihn auf Verlangen einer zur Feststellung der Identität berechtigten Behörde vo…
In the text says it clearly: you must have an ID, and you have to present it if requested. That does not means, you have to have it with you at all times. Exactly this is the kind of fine details that a lawyer distinguishes in the law. So no. Absolutely no. You do not have to carry it with you. If it comes to the need, then maybe the police have to scort you to your home and you have to show the ID. But you are not r…
Slippery slopes work exactly because people are incapable to predict the long term consequences for eroding safety standards and are at the same time arrogant enough to believe to be very much capable. Its cognitive biases at work in selecting some of the most reckless approaches for dangerous situations.
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#233I really like the idea. But I am skeptic - digitalisation of Germany's public services and offices in the past hasn't exactly been a success story.
It hasn’t but it’s on the right track. I am working as a developer in one of the federal agencies and have direct contact with the efforts. It helps a lot that public agencies can now offer a so called IT Zulage of a few hundred euros to 1000 per months that brings salaries on par with the private sector. In my team, this worked wonders and we managed to get some really good people. On the other hand, the task is eno…
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#234It must be a very hard slog to get there whilst also upholding your ideals, so kudos to you!
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It doesn’t take a religious nut or a conspiracy theorist to see the catastrophically enormous downsides of universally mandated, centrally managed, and cryptographically-backed state identification cards, complete with RFID. Imagine, for example, that upon declaring a protest unlawful, the police could simply scan all the RFID-enabled ID cards in the area and issue everyone a court summons. Not carrying an ID card? N…
I find the idea of using social security ID or a driving licence as an ID very backwards.
I have a wallet that has RFID protection.
Public transportation uses a different card, payments also use a different card (a normal bank card, like you surely have), and I don't see why you think these payments will be forcibly linked to the ID card.
And don't get me started about laptops or smartphones. There's an application for smartphones that allows to have your ID digitally inside the app, and that's it. Your ID is not tied to any encryption or login.
So, you actually sound a bit unreasonable. I repeat: the use of social security numbers or driving licences is very awkward in my opinion. An actual ID has many advantages.
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#236Germany was quite advanced when it came to technology but then the drive to make more of it somehow stopped. It has always been incredibly sad to me that the German ID card (Personalausweis) has an RFID chip inside with trust zones, certificates, authorization features, and much more and just never had been used. Like at all except for getting cigarettes at vending machines. 12 years after the first RFID Personalausw…
Its fascinating what EU can accomplish, but in my mind drivers licenses and "national IDs" (that are usable when travelling in EU) should be merged and unified over the union. Imagine how much simpler things would be! And this tech used in Germany sounds like a very nice base for it. I mean I would also make them passports but I think that is impossible.
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Makes a lot of sense with German culture IMO. There's a culture of doing your job very well, but not much of a culture of thinking outside of the box or shaking things up. Some Herr Doktor probably followed all the best practices to implement "trust zones, certificates, authorization features, and much more" in the ID, doing their job really well. But actually changing the processes to use those features is not anyon…
It goes also with a different aspect of German culture. They rolled that out together with finger printing. People value their privacy here and this was overstepping too many boundaries. Those features have also never been explained to the average Michel here. Even IT interested people are not aware or understand the good things about it.
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In The Netherlands, they are implementing a thing which gives the same advantages (i.e. disclose some attributes about yourself without disclosing unneeded data), but uses different technologies. It's called IRMA, you can find an overview here [1]. It can be combined with other applications to do cool stuff, e.g. with PostGuard [2] you can use identity-based encryption to be able to send an encrypted email to someone…
From the website: > With IRMA it is easy to log in and make yourself known, by disclosing only relevant attributes of yourself. For instance, in order to watch a certain movie online, you prove that you are older than 16, and nothing else. That’s not “cool stuff”.
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From the website: > With IRMA it is easy to log in and make yourself known, by disclosing only relevant attributes of yourself. For instance, in order to watch a certain movie online, you prove that you are older than 16, and nothing else. That’s not “cool stuff”.
You present the conclusion only. Please share the train of thoughts that made you arrive at it, because it is not obvious.