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Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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most of their ads show some woman exhibiting reluctance to undressing, and then the men around her coercing her to do so anyways. of course they're misogynist. But of course, you have to understand that it's part of the company's philosophy. This is the same CEO that came out in favor of waterboarding: http://www.metafilter.com/42906/Dear-Bob-Im-glad-youre-not-i... the same CEO that goes elephant hunting: http://www.…

Oh? I only remember their Superbowl ads, with a woman very willing to take her clothes off, and men having heart attacks etc. around her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap5XwwEGR7k&feature=relmf...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aHe_9nH_Mc

my IQ dropped just looking for these. I can't wait for the end of this company.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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This is the right outcome, and they should be commended. I think SOPA is awful, and they were on the wrong side of the argument. Subsequently, they listened to customers and changed their position. (Yes, it’s self-interest, just like you and I engage in.) One should resist the urge to say “yeah but they’re still awful people” unless one is willing to bring the same passion to everyone else on the list of supporters.…

They're guaranteed to be just as evil as before. They're just doing damage control: "Please stop leaving us in droves!" It's naive to believe anything else.

That’s my point. “Evil” has nothing to do with it, unless we believe our industry to be populated by angels and devils.

Let’s focus on behaviors and incentives. Leaving in droves seems to have led to behavior we prefer. What to conclude?

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Does anyone know when Bob Parsons stepped down as CEO? I realize he's still the Executive Chairman, but the "About GoDaddy" section at the bottom of the page still refers to him as CEO. The article also refers to Warren Adelman as "Go Daddy's newly appointed CEO."

According to this article, just over a week. Talk about stepping in "it".

http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/23/godaddy-ceo-there-has-to-be...

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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The only thing this means is that community action actually made a difference. That's immensely reassuring. Can we keep doing this, but for SOPA itself?

Businesses run the government. Money controls business. This happened to be one of those issues where it was very easy to clearly show the company that their particular actions would not be tolerated. Not only that, but the difficulty of moving your support away from them was tremendously easy as well. Because of limitations, not all industries enjoy this sort of free market-esque lateral movement. Comm companies, fo…

"Money controls business."

I'm looking at a dollar bill on the table in front of me, and I don't think it controls anything. It's an inanimate object.

I know this isn't what you mean. But it's helpful to point this out, for the sake of clear thinking and accuracy: human beings control money. They choose if, where and how to earn it or spend it. Ultimately, it's not money that controls business, but people, with ideas, lives, dreams, goals, motives (sometimes shortsighted and foolhardy, but also sometimes farsighted and brilliant) etc. There is no good reason to imply that one inanimate object or technology such as money is somehow inherently tainted, even if only to some small degree.

Why not try calling out bad ideas instead? What are they, and why are they bad?

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Why does Google work on self-driving cars and cancer diagnostics?

...because nobody got rich off pharma, and the kind of AI tech on self driving cars has no real world applications.

Why aren't pharma companies developing internet advertising platforms, then?

If every company did every thing that everyone else ever did successfully... I can't even finish this sentence.

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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So your saying we need to boycott Hollywood ?!? Have everyone turn off their tvs, stop paying for cable tv, stop listening to popular music, stop going to the movies and such ? Good luck with that... Definitely need to focus on govt. maybe a OCCUPY Capitol Hill and other SOPA supportErs' premises is what is needed?!??

I don't think it is that unrealistic to expect a shift away from TVs. In fact, number of households with a TV set is starting a downward trend which is accelerating. http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/11/30/tv-ownership-declines/ It is certainly possible to buy DRM-free tracks, and indeed this should be encouraged. Creative commons music exists too. Movies are another matter, although I don't think discouraging people from…

yes but i say good luck with that because how big of a dent to the Comcasts of the world is this community?

For Godaddy this community is their market and thus we can force action by canceling our service. The market for Hollywood and the RIAA's products cover all walks of life.

You'd have to get your neighbor, aunt, 3rd cousin, etc to stop patronizing Hollywood and the ilk to hurt their bottom line. Your neighbor and grandma have never heard of SOPA nor do they care they just want to watch wheel of fortune or their favorite show.

Many in this community have canceled cable tv services, but again has your grandmother, father, 3rd cousin or neighbor done so too?

Re: Go Daddy No Longer Supports SOPA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're guaranteed to be just as evil as before. They're just doing damage control: "Please stop leaving us in droves!" It's naive to believe anything else.

That’s my point. “Evil” has nothing to do with it, unless we believe our industry to be populated by angels and devils. Let’s focus on behaviors and incentives. Leaving in droves seems to have led to behavior we prefer. What to conclude?

I've seen lots of separate instances of scummy behaviour by GoDaddy, long before this SOPA spectacle.

Money is the only incentive they need, and the only one they follow. A big company is all about maximizing profits at every turn.

What to conclude? -Nothing. GoDaddy is still just as full of shit as it was before today, and will continue shafting its customers and corrupting your government.

GoDaddy's problem was that people who manage Internet domains tend to be technical folks, aware of SOPA and against it. As a result of this combination, there were actual consequences to supporting SOPA. It just happens to be easy enough to protest by moving your domains away, so lots of people did.

This was purely an exercise in damage control, not an indication of anything actually changing at GoDaddy.

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