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BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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The CEO was cheering on when Musk laid off half the company. Not surprised.

calling Austen a CEO is like calling Bernie Madoff an investor. sure maybe it's 'technically' true, but they're both just clueless scammers looking to make a buck.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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> I’ve never met a single boot camp person, and absolutely zero staff engineers are boot camp grads that I know of, unless they scrubbed it from their LinkedIn and never talk about it. This comment has the same energy as the person I once worked with who told me (a lesbian) with total confidence that they'd never met a gay person before. Just because you aren't aware doesn't mean it's not happening all around you. It…

> How many people do you know in the industry without CS degrees? A lot of those folks came in through bootcamps, whether they cop to it or not. People without CS degrees or degrees at all are fairly common, including at staff level and above. Many of these people have been in the industry since before bootcamps became a thing.

Previous comment showing a sample of 50 staff engineers shows only 1/50 having a non CS or CS adjacent degree and only 6 didn't show any degree. So idk if I would call that 'fairly common'.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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My brother went to Lambda school 2019-2020. Would not recommend. They had recent grads that had just completed Lambda the previous year teaching the new students and most of them had just a vague grasp on the content matter. So many inaccuracies and bad practices taught. The only good thing about it was that it was structured and you were coding each day for 5-8hrs so if you weren't the most self-motivated person, you were held accountable. But again, a lot of it was taught badly or inaccurately, so unless you spent a lot of time doing outside research on your own, you weren't learning much. If you do have self-motivation, you don't need Lambda or BloomTech. After graduation, there was no follow up of any kind. So overall, pretty disappointing.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I will happily defend everything I’ve said in a courtroom if necessary.

I will bet $1,000 to the charity of your choice that you will settle your personal lawsuit— the one on this very matter— before your day in court.

You can surely see they are helping a lot of people, in addition to what you believe on the negative side of things. Not trying to be snippy or offer a trick question, but genuinely, what do you get out of this? Surely it's not worth your time. Even if he is the biggest scammer on the planet you are probably better off spending your time on constructive things.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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You can see our 2021 audited outcomes report here with all of the data https://www.bloomtech.com/reports/outcomes-report . (Note: 2021 outcomes report is very recent as you have to get students graduated, give them time to get placed, etc.) Some of it I'm thrilled about, some of it shows us where we have more work to do (or need to do better in admissions - candidly it's always a difficult balance between giving folk…

This comment got me interested, so I dived deeper into the report [0]. Learners are divided into three groups: graduated (59%), still enrolled (5%), and withdrawn (36%). Graduated learners are further divided into two groups: job seeking (63%: ~37% of all learners) and non-job seeking (37%: ~22% of all learners). Here's the definition of “non-job seeking”: “A BloomTech graduate who has been unresponsive to outreach,…

It's amazing, if you pre-filter all the non-successful outcomes, the success rate raises tremendously...

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Funny how some people think that "programming though Stack Overflow" will keep working after you progress to a certain level School mentality (and I might add: grifter mentality as well)

I’m Senior Staff and still have to use Stack Overflow regularly!

Sure, not a problem. Most programmers do, probably.

However, I've seen students use Stack Overflow and other resources as a source of "program stamps":

- They enter their problem in an Internet search engine.

- Click on the first result with code in it.

- "Stamp it" on their own code: I.e., copy/paste it.

- Using editor/compiler, find any issues by trial and error and fix them so the editor/compiler doesn't complain anymore.

They might try a simple example or two to see if it works. And that's it.

There's not much reflection on their final solution, or on the bits they copy/paste. They don't seem to understand their solution, nor care about that or their problem solving process. They put in effort, they expect a passing grade.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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The fact that we changed our name because of a trademark lawsuit is a matter of public record https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/4:2019cv...

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Hmm, it is interesting to me that sometimes when clear evidence conflicts with an existing mental model it’s easier to create imaginary evidence than to adjust the mental model.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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I was not cheering, and my opinion is consistent; as money becomes much tighter companies have to rightsize themselves to the amount of revenue coming in. This is true across Silicon Valley and it is true of us. https://twitter.com/austen/status/1588336949403611136?s=46&t...

this is only true of shitty businesses built on scams and lies. company producing results don't need to.

Sadly that’s not true. Even the very best of companies try to grow and occasionally miss and have to shrink, or layoffs would be far more rare.

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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Has anyone had success hiring bootcamp grads? I’ve interviewed dozens and their resume will say something like “Fellow at [bootcamp]” or “Instructor at [bootcamp]”, and it turns out they made a simple programming 101 app and taught a 1hr intro to JavaScript class. None have ever passed an initial screening by me for mid level dev jobs, but I’m curious if anyone else has hired a bootcamp grad for a junior role and had…

bootcamp grads not being immediately good when hired makes sense in the context that even CS majors with at least 4 years of coding experience generally suck when they start. What could you possibly expect from somebody with 3-6 months experience?

bootcamp grads make more sense to be brought on as some sort of intern level hire with similar expectations

Re: BloomTech, previously Lambda School, cuts half of staff

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My brother went to Lambda school 2019-2020. Would not recommend. They had recent grads that had just completed Lambda the previous year teaching the new students and most of them had just a vague grasp on the content matter. So many inaccuracies and bad practices taught. The only good thing about it was that it was structured and you were coding each day for 5-8hrs so if you weren't the most self-motivated person, yo…

I guess that sounds a lot like a community college to me, but maybe faster and better.

Can non-self motivated people succeed if they go to say an Ivy League? I didn’t, so it’s a sincere curiosity for me. Would Zuckerberg have ended up bagging groceries if he went to a community college rather than Harvard?

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