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How to sell tickets fairly

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Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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If the kids didn't buy at the time, that means they didn't buy them before when the tickets were more expensive. Which means that also wouldn't be interested in buying the more expensive scalped tickets either. Put into context: Tickets are $30 - kid doesn't buy them next day Tickets are $29 - scaler buys them before the kid The kid has already decided that $30 is too much. For the resale to be worth it, it would nee…

What if the kid passes at $30 because money is tight, they’d prefer to pay $20 and want to try for that, but scalpers snatch up all the cheapest tickets before the kid is able to. The kid still really wants to go, however, and is willing to actually pay the scalper up to $40 when push comes to shove, even if it hurts a bit? Or if they weren’t organized enough or able to commit to going early on, but still have the pu…

Yeah, the price/time algorithm for the auction can't accommodate every single kid's temporal and financial idiosyncracies. Compared to what?

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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post #154

The proposed idea is a technical one that doesn't work for the promoters or artists or venues. The promoters want to know very early whether the venue is the right one for the number attending and whether to upsize, add dates, or even to go the other way to a smaller venue. The time to book a venue is very long... So they need as complete data as they can about sales as early as possible (they would love if 80% of th…

> "I have more money and deserve more to have a ticket over someone that doesn't have as much money"

The "free market" is the closest thing we have to a meritocracy. It's also the only mechanism we have for decentralized decision making.

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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post #224

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How exactly do fans prove their loyalty?

* Link your Spotify and see that the listening history for the artist goes back a while. * Require names on tickets and verify them at the door. Then for fan checking see if they’ve been to shows in the same scene.

And what of fans that don't use a streaming service but buys their music instead?

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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post #215

Is Taylor Swift that good? I must be very old.

Yes. "As of 2022, Swift has broken 84 Guinness World Records, of which 13 times she broke her own record or regained it, and 74 remain unbroken." [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations...

Weird that this got downvoted. In response to "Is ${artist} that good?", I link to an objective list of awards and accolades showing that ${artist} is very good at their job. Compare Swift's success against the Beatles, Dolly Parton [1,2] or anybody else, and it's a very strong showing. If you don't like the art, that's a completely different matter. But in the sense of whether Swift is good in the way that matters here, the answer is clearly, "Yes."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations...

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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Seems a bit of a weird question. Considering how often it's discussed on HN what the unintended effects are of regulations on healthcare, education, and environment. I would wager more than 5% of posts that got more than 100 comments in the last 5 years have discussions about that topic.

There are three categories of criticism being mixed up here. 1. You cannot influence the market, it will always revert to form. 2. You can influence the market, but in doing so, you will cause too many damaging side-effects. 3. You should not influence the market, because it’s morally wrong to do so. The first comment was very much in category 1, but now it sounds like category 2. The problem with category 2 argument…

Well 2. is only a subset of 1., on a long enough time scale, as all human 'influences' will vanish too.

Animals, even plants, experience market forces to some extent. So I would say 'You cannot influence the market over millions of years, it will always revert to form.'

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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> Shameless plug: I understand how to make and launch exactly this kind of system, at least technically. If you want it built, please contact me. I cannot roll my eyes hard enough - if you can, then do it already. Why the hell do you need the encouragement?

I think they mean "if you want to pay for it".

Yep.

Re: How to sell tickets fairly

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post #154

The proposed idea is a technical one that doesn't work for the promoters or artists or venues. The promoters want to know very early whether the venue is the right one for the number attending and whether to upsize, add dates, or even to go the other way to a smaller venue. The time to book a venue is very long... So they need as complete data as they can about sales as early as possible (they would love if 80% of th…

> [T]he idea that "I have more money and deserve more to have a ticket over someone that doesn't have as much money" is antithetical to the thinking of every artist I've ever worked with. The problem is, with a limited supply of tickets you’re going to draw the line somehow whether you want it or not. Price sets the barrier explicitly. Attempts to avoid using that (e.g. in various social welfare programs all over the…

> implicit barrier that may seem less outrageous on the surface but at the end of the day is not that much better

Not better at all, in fact.

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