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Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

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post #202

>that form allowed the company to then tax me on that ‘gift’ as income, Wrong. There is no "form" needed for taxation, it is required by the IRS (in U.S.) and the company does not "tax" anyone. Employer gifts (other than de minimis amounts) are taxable compensation. (see IRS Publication 15-B for details). A good employer will "gross up" cash gifts to cover the taxes.

Why are you so aggressively sure that was an American anecdote?

I'm not. That is why I went out of my way to qualify my reply with "(in U.S.)" to clarify what jurisdiction I was commenting about.

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

#232
post #34

>that form allowed the company to then tax me on that ‘gift’ as income, Wrong. There is no "form" needed for taxation, it is required by the IRS (in U.S.) and the company does not "tax" anyone. Employer gifts (other than de minimis amounts) are taxable compensation. (see IRS Publication 15-B for details). A good employer will "gross up" cash gifts to cover the taxes.

But surely the embroidering of a company logo on it vastly reduces the value of the item, and this must be accounted for. If I have a new Cotopaxi or Arc'teryx item I can sell it on Facebook Marketplace for 90% of its MSRP. But if it has a fucking TurboTax Information Security Team logo on it I doubt I could get 25%. So I hope this is accounted for in the taxation.

My understanding is that logo'd swag is (usually) marketing expense, not taxable employee gift. If it's a non-cash-equiv gift under $100 in value, it's almost definitely not a taxable income item. If it's more than that, but has the logo on it...

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

#233

A company I know gave all their employees company branded beach towels, sunscreen, water bottles, and bucket hats for Christmas when it was making record profits. Being in the southern hemisphere, beach paraphernalia is seasonally appropriate, but I suspect they would've preferred just being given their share of the money that was spent on company branded products. Or, you know, a bonus because, well, record profits.…

I wonder how many were let down when they realized the gifts weren't, in fact, a hint at a paid beach vacation for the team?

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

#234

So I had a buddy, he was a junior-ish very talented dev in this big retailer where I was working as well. This retailer obv had massive campaigns for black friday, but also obv very shitty and inflexible systems. This buddy of mine found that the black friday promotions pricings import failed 5 min before midnight. Meaning that not only would there be no black friday pricing, there would be no pricing at all on the s…

Gift cards are the worst, because they just get deducted from my paycheck anyway.

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

#235
post #49

Not just employee gifts, but nearly all gifts are valued less by the receiver than the giver. A gift represents a decision made on behalf of the receiver by the giver. In very few situations would the receiver make the same decision as the giver with the same resources. It's assumed that the receiver will use the same resources in an optimal manner, so gift-giving is a net negative. In some circumstances, gifts are v…

I always see gifts as recommendations. You don't need to have expertise to know about something that is more valuable than expected and that the person would not have bought for themselves. And the best gifts that I (or others around me) have received are things that turned out better than expected.

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very simplistic and very narrow perspective about gifting when looked from this side. I don't consider gifts as the items solely. The person who brought the gift spent some time pondering what would I like, gave his/her best shot. Spent time and funds to acquire this and gave it to me. Yes, it might not be the exact item I'd get; yes, it might not be crazy expensive (or just flat out cheap and simple). But…

> The person who brought the gift spent some time pondering what would I like, gave his/her best shot. That's a hell of an assumption to make. There's a very real chance they spent 2 seconds buying something last minute because they were obligated to buy you something! I see my girlfriend do it every Christmas.

> There's a very real chance they spent 2 seconds buying something last minute because they were obligated to buy you something!

That's a hell of an assumption to make. In my family we negotiate what we going to buy for every member for at least two weeks, taking account what they are going to like and what they actually need, amongst other criteria.

Any friend of mine and my wife also gets the same treatment, as far as I experienced.

BTW, nobody is obliged to buy me anything for any day. I'm perfectly OK with that.

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

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Top of my list: anything involving food.

I’m allergic to casein and whey (proteins found in milk). And any amount of cross-contamination will make me physically sick. Caffeine and alcohol aggravate my mental health issues.

This was a disaster at my last job.

Every event involving food, one of the following happens:

- Pizza party, donuts, cake, etc as rewards. A number of people choose not to eat these because of calories, so people allergic to the food can choose not to eat it.

- Spend over a hour making a list of safe restaurants that are too expensive for me to ever have been to and still getting sick because food safety is for plebs.

- Help plan the catering for an event I’d rather not attend.

- Standing around awkwardly while everyone apologizes multiple times for forgetting my food allergies. I don’t want to be there and now I am responsible for making everyone else feel better about the situation.

- Told to get lunch on my own and expense it. Forget the receipt and have accounting get my manager involved.

And for fun, the worst situation: a VIP coming to the office to work with me for two days on an important project.

Well, if course everyone involved had to go to dinner with him. I had to pick the restaurant. Said restaurant did in fact not understand food safety, despite their claims to the contrary. Realized this about half an hour into the meal. I was severely sick for the next two days and felt terrible for the next week.

The damage was severe enough I couldn’t keep food down initially. Probably should have gone the hospital, but I didn’t want to pay hundreds of dollars on top of my misery.

I suspect this was career limiting. Got a new job eventually. So fuck that guy.

Re: Employee gift ideas that make people feel bad

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I think the worst one I've ever seen was a nurse I know was given a pen (of bic quality), a $10 giftcard to fast food, and a lanyard as a gift from the hospital during COVID. She was pulling double shifts and exposed to all sorts of hazards (the union didn't come to save them on PPE for a long time). This hospital, by the way, is insanely profitable.

I'm not sure how you could insult people more. Even no gift would be less insulting.

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