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This is Bart, Proton CTO here. For clarity, the issue mentioned here only impacts Proton Mail Bridge, our desktop IMAP/SMTP gateway to Proton Mail encrypted email. The fact that Bridge and its client can become desynchronized sporadically for some users is a high priority issue we have been working on. Bridge is open source, and as a result relies upon open-source components, and the root cause is an architectural is…
This is Bart, Proton CTO here. For clarity, the issue mentioned here only impacts Proton Mail Bridge, our desktop IMAP/SMTP gateway to Proton Mail encrypted email. The fact that Bridge and its client can become desynchronized sporadically for some users is a high priority issue we have been working on. Bridge is open source, and as a result relies upon open-source components, and the root cause is an architectural is…
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Protonmail doesn't support email clients with POP/IMAP like most hosting companies do. They only let you use their proprietary apps on mobile. Desktop users can log in to the website or use Bridge which is just a hacky way of creating a local Protonmail server that your email client thinks is a hosting provider. I could never get it set up on my machine so I just used the browser implementation. sigh.
They aren't offering IMAP as an email provider? What's up with that?
This is a case of Proton sacrificing convenience for privacy. If the former is more important for you than the latter, there are better alternatives out there.
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Hmm. When I was using Protonmail in free tier, the Import-Export feature was only for the paid tier. Seems strange that they only opened it for free tier now. This should be a feature available to any tier in the first place.
I see it as a way of getting paid for the development of services. People willing to pay for an offering are more likely to provide quality feedback. Once it is stable there and dev time has been recouped, you can offer it to the free tier. I actually don't have an issue with that. Once it is available to free tier users, it frees up the devs to go to the next item on the list once again only available to the paid us…
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Every time I see that, I’m floored by it. The fact that message IDs in IMAP change when you delete messages has got to be one of the worst design choices in any in-use protocol. I’m flabbergasted by it. The sooner everyone moves to jmap the better.
To forestall confusion: there are two different ID mechanisms in IMAP. The first mechanism is message sequence IDs. If you have a mailbox with N messages in it, these messages are numbered 1-N (inclusive); a new message gets N+1; and deleting message, say, 3 causes 4-N to be renumbered to 3-(N-1). Note that the server can be the one to delete the message (say another connected client deletes it), but server-to-client…
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To forestall confusion: there are two different ID mechanisms in IMAP. The first mechanism is message sequence IDs. If you have a mailbox with N messages in it, these messages are numbered 1-N (inclusive); a new message gets N+1; and deleting message, say, 3 causes 4-N to be renumbered to 3-(N-1). Note that the server can be the one to delete the message (say another connected client deletes it), but server-to-client…
There's arguably a third: Message-Id. It's meant to be globally unique and comes from the message itself. I don't know how workable it is for email synchronization with IMAP; IMAP servers will provide them (they're just another header) but I'm not sure the client commands exist for a message-id approach to be as efficient or ergonomic.
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> Bridge is open source, and as a result relies upon open-source components I don't get it. Bridge is open source does not imply it should relies upon open-source components. > Addressing this issue at the source requires replacing the core IMAP library. Why building an IMAP library from scratch instead of fixing/forking go-imap? Even a temporary fix to go-imap when you are developing gluon? Another repetitive work w…
> I don't get it. Bridge is open source does not imply it should relies upon open-source components. It could be open source and depend on proprietary components, but then the public wouldn't be able to build and use it from source.
If they decide to use third party libraries, that's their responsibility to review those libraries and include them to their code base.
Not "it's not my fault; it's others fault"
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Current title is "Protonmail can delete the wrong email and nobody cares". It makes it seem as if using just protonmail could result in deleting a wrong email. This is not the case, you have to be using proton bridge. People who care about protonmail but don't care about proton bridge have to click the link to learn that.
You don’t have to use the bridge for this to happen. Read the issues.
I stopped using it anyway since "ProtonMail logged IP address of French activist after order by Swiss authorities" (Which thing was against the promise they made to users publicly on their website by that time)
So, you don't use email at all now? Is it possible?
Been using Outlook for 15 years (remember Hotmail lol) and never had a problem with them. Paying for email seems so weird.